Joined: 22 Feb 2006 Posts: 8249 Location: Fingerlakes - NY usa
An Anonymous Email From An Airline Mechanic -(Bullshit!)
Before reading this (if you bother to waste your time on this "chemtrail" crap), consider how much revealing information this "concerned citizen" divulges making them easily traceable if it were real! I'm not posting this to confirm chemtrails; I'm posting it to demonstrate the absurd "evidence" presented for them.
http://www.rbnlive.com/mechanic.html#email wrote:
For reasons you will understand as you read this I can not divulge my identity.
I am an aircraft mechanic for a major airline. I work at one of our maintenance bases located at a large airport. I have discovered some information that I think you will find important.
First, I should tell you something about the "pecking order" among mechanics. It is important to my story and to the cause to which you have dedicated yourself.
Mechanics want to work on three things. The avionics, the engines, or the flight controls. The mechanics that work on these systems are considered at the top of the "pecking order".
Next come the mechanics that work on the hydraulics and air conditioning systems. Then come the ones who work on the galley and other non-essential systems. But at the very bottom of the list are the mechanics that work on the waste disposal systems.
No mechanic wants to work on the pumps, tanks, and pipes that are used to store the waste from the lavatories. But at every airport where I have worked there are always 2 or 3 mechanics that volunteer to work on the lavatory systems.
The other mechanics are happy to let them do it. Because of this you will have only 2 or 3 mechanics that work on these systems at any one airport. No one pays much attention to these guys and no mechanic socializes with another mechanic who only works on the waste systems.
Fact is, I had never even thought much about this situation until last month. Like most airlines we have reciprocal agreements with the other airlines that fly into this airport. If they have a problem with a plane one of our mechanics will take care of it.
Likewise, if one of our planes has a problem at an airport where the other airline has a maintenance base, they will fix our plane.
One day last month I was called out from our base to work on a plane for another airline. When I got the call the dispatcher did not know what the problem was. When I got to the plane I found out that the problem was in waste disposal system. There was nothing for me to do but to crawl in and fix the problem.
When I got into the bay I realized that something was not right. There were more tanks, pumps, and pipes then should have been there. At first I assumed that the waste disposal system had been changed. It had been about 10 years since I had worked on this particular model of aircraft.
As I tried to find the problem I quickly realized the extra piping and tanks were not connected to the waste disposal system, at all. I had just discovered this when another mechanic from my company showed up. It was one of the mechanics who usually works on this particular type of plane, and I happily turned the job over to him.
As I was leaving I asked him about the extra equipment. He told me to "worry about my end of the plane and let him worry about his end!"
The next day I was on the company computer to look up a wiring schematic. While I was there I decided to look up the extra equipment I had found. To my amazement the manuals did not show any of the extra equipment I had seen with my own eyes the day before. I even tied in to the manufacturer files and still found nothing. Now I was really determined to find out what that equipment did.
The next week we had three of our planes in our main hanger for periodic inspection. There are mechanics crawling all over a plane during these inspections. I had just finished my shift and I decided to have a look at the waste system on one of our planes. With all the mechanics around I figured that no one would notice an extra one on the plane.
Sure enough, the plane I choose had the extra equipment! I began to trace the system of pipes, pumps, and tanks. I found what appeared to be the control unit for the system. It was a standard looking avionics control box but it had no markings of any kind.
I could trace the control wires from the box to the pumps and valves but there were no control circuits coming into the unit. The only wires coming into the unit was a power connection to the aircraft's main power bus.
The system had 1 large tank and 2 smaller tanks. It was hard to tell in the cramped compartment, but it looked like the large tank could hold about 50 gallons. The tanks were connected to a fill and drain valve that passed through the fuselage just behind the drain valve for the waste system.
When I had a chance to look for this connection under the plane I found it cunningly hidden behind a panel under the panel used to access the waste drain.
I began to trace the piping from the pumps. These pipes lead to a network of small pipes that ended in the trailing edges of the wings and horizontal stabilizers.
If you look closely at the wings of a large airplane you will see a set of wires, about the size of your finger, extending from the trailing edge of the wing surfaces. These are the static discharge wicks. They are used to dissipate the static electric charge that builds up on a plane in flight.
I discovered that the pipes from this mystery system lead to every 1 out of 3 of these static discharge wicks. These wicks had been "hollowed out" to allow whatever flows through these pipes to be discharged through the fake wicks.
Chem Trails From Airliner It was while I was on the wing that one of the managers spotted me. He ordered me out of the hanger telling me that my shift was over and I had not been authorized any overtime.
The next couple of days were very busy and I had no time to continue my investigation. Late one afternoon, two days after my discovery, I was called to replace an engine temperature sensor on a plane due to take off in two hours. I finished the job and turned in the paperwork.
About 30 minutes later I was paged to see the General Manager. When I went in his office I found that our union rep and two others who I did not know were waiting on me. He told me that a serious problem had been discovered. He said that I was being written up and suspended for turning in false paperwork.
He handed me a disciplinary form stating that I had turned in false paperwork on the engine temperature sensor I had installed a few hours before. I was floored and began to protest. I told them that this was ridiculous and that I had done this work.
The union rep spoke up at this point and recommended that we take a look at the plane to see if we could straighten it all out. I then asked who the other two men were. The GM told me that they were airline safety inspectors but would not give me their names.
We proceeded to the plane, which should have been in the air but was parked on our maintenance ramp. We opened the engine cowling and the union rep pulled the sensor. He checked the serial number and told everyone that it was the old instrument. We then went to the parts bay and went back into the racks.
The union rep checked my report and pulled from the rack a sealed box. He opened the box and pulled out the engine temperature sensor with the serial number of the one I had installed. I was told that I was suspended for a week without pay and to leave immediately.
I sat at home the first day of my suspension wondering what the hell had happened to me. That evening I received a phone call. The voice told me "Now you know what happens to mechanics who poke around in things they shouldn't. The next time you start working on systems that are no concern of yours you will lose your job! As it is, I'm feeling generous, I believe that you'll be able to go back to work soon." CLICK.
Again, I had to pick myself from off the floor. As my mind raced, it was at this moment that I made the connection that what had happened to me must have been directly connected to my tracing the "mysterious" piping.
mechanic3 (33K) The next morning the General Manager called me. He said that due to my past excellent employment record that the suspension had been reduced to one day and that I should report back to work immediately. The only thing I could think of was "what are they trying to hide" and "who are 'THEY'"!
That day at work went by as if nothing had happened. None of the other mechanics mentioned the suspension and my union rep told me not to talk about it. That night I logged onto the Internet to try to find some answers.
I don't remember now how I got there but I came across a site that talked about chemically-laced contrails.
That's when it all came together. But the next morning at work I found a note inside my locked locker. It said, "Curiosity killed the cat. Don't be looking at Internet sites that are no concern of yours."
Well that's it. Now I know 'THEY' are watching me.
While I don't know what THEY are spraying, I can tell you how they are doing it. I figure they are using the "honey trucks". These are the trucks that empty the waste from the lavatory waste tanks.
The airports usually contract out this job and nobody goes near these trucks. Who wants to stand next a truck full of sh--. While these guys are emptying the waste tanks, it makes sense that they could easily be filling the tanks of the spray system.
They know the planes flight path so they probably program the control unit to start spraying some amount of time after the plane reaches a certain altitude. The spray nozzles in the fake static wicks are so small that no one in the plane would see a thing.
Joined: 22 Feb 2006 Posts: 8249 Location: Fingerlakes - NY usa
I have watched the sky. There are numerous different types of clouds. It only stands to reason that contrails would react differently to different atmospheric conditions also.
perfect sunny day... "contrails" appear at a height which contrails can't appear at... "contrails" turn into a huge blanket that lasts for hours... hmm...
you know, for someone who claims to be a major "truth seeker", you disregard things pretty quickly...
Fri Jun 30, 2006 9:11 am
madthumbs
Joined: 22 Feb 2006 Posts: 8249 Location: Fingerlakes - NY usa
I've looked for proof or good evidence of chemtrails. I didn't find any. If you have good evidence please provide it; otherwise it just appears to be a diversion.
Currently I'm checking out Owning the Weather. -If I had dismissed it, I wouldn't bother.
no; you're telling people that it's crap, without giving any evidence that it's crap... you're scaring people from doing their own research because of an "opinion"...
Sat Jul 01, 2006 5:19 am
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madthumbs
Joined: 22 Feb 2006 Posts: 8249 Location: Fingerlakes - NY usa
neurine wrote:
no; you're telling people that it's crap, without giving any evidence that it's crap... you're scaring people from doing their own research because of an "opinion"...
I have yet to see evidence that it's real, and this is written more like a work of fiction than a sincere letter. Lets switch the conversation over to Underwear Gnomes. Would you respond likewise? -There's no proof that they don't exist either and the story about them isn't any less believeable.
if you weren't such a nitpicker, you would have found the evidence ages ago.
Sun Jul 02, 2006 10:20 pm
falseflagops
Joined: 06 Jul 2006 Posts: 80 Location: anywhere but here
don't know
Well I do remember a video about global dimming - that said 911 airline grounding gave some stats as far as what happened when the planes weren't flying.
Also there is a writer that has some docs about people talking about creating a sun screen. video chemtrail - what is wrong with our skies?
Well I do remember a video about global dimming - that said 911 airline grounding gave some stats as far as what happened when the planes weren't flying.
Also there is a writer that has some docs about people talking about creating a sun screen. video chemtrail - what is wrong with our skies?
I remember that video, it was fantastic and really openend my eyes. As for writing the mechanic off, i think its your too quick for this as just because there is no proof on the NET doesnt mean its not there all together!!! Remember that the most secret things will be hard to find !!! otherwise big bro isnt doing his job now isnt he!!!
cheers
chris
heres a link to an article hosted on the Rense website, but not written by him. it has to do with contrails and chemtrails and links to other interesting information. i know rense is under scrutiny but im goin to post it anyways cuz i dont know enough about rense atm to have an opinion about his validity.
Contrails Vs Chemtrails -
Facts And Chronology
From Kim Weber <ohwarriorgoddess@earthlink.net>
5-23-00
I. Contrail vs. Chemtrail.
A. A contrail dispurses. A chemtrail spreads into cloud cover and sometimes has fallout (cob-web like filaments, red/yellow powders, milky-white fluid).
II. Purposes (??? weather modification, protection from ozone holes, bio-vaccination, culling - ???)
* UN environmental Program "Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change" www.ipcc.ch
* UN "Capacity Development Initiative" on climate change ... in partnership with THE WORLD BANK as financiers (remember Seattle protests) www.gefweb.org/Capacity_Dev.pdf
* When DOD took over Dr. Eastlund's research, the birth of HAARP took place. HAARP is based in Alaska and it is being applied to the Earth's ionosphere for weather control and mind control purposes. "Angels Don't Play This HAARP", Dr. Nick Begich [Earthpulse Press, PO Box 201393, Anchorage, AK 99520]; Concerned citizens group paper at www.geocities.com/Area51/Shadowlands/6583/project116.html
* US Air Force IS involved. Early April 2000, KC135s were grounded and during the period immediately following spraying reports across the US significantly dropped. See http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/chemtrailtrackingusa (OVER 700 members - daily reports to track) Also see the research of William Thomas (Author, "The Scorched Earth", "Bringing The War Home", "Probing the Chemtrail Conundrum") www.islandnet.com/~wilco/investsky.htm (Email: wilco@islandnet.com).
* Our weathermen KNOW. The data doesn't support the cloud cover. For instance, last year in Sante Fe, NM there was a 21-day period of continuous clouud cover when humidity/dew point levels were no higher than 30%. Clouds can only form when humidity/dew point levels are 60% of higher. HOW DID THE CLOUDS FORM?? (see www.carnicom.com/contrails.htm)
B. There has definitely been biological warfare testing of UNKNOWING U.S. citizens and OUR GOVERNMENT IS FULLY AWARE OF IT.
* 1977 hearings before the U.S. Senate Committee on Human Resources SubCommittee on Health and Scientific Research (see www.carnicom.com/contrails.htm)
* AGAIN 5/6/94 U.S. Senate testimony of Dr. Leonard Cole (Author, "Clouds of Secrecy") before the Committee on Veteran's Affairs (see www.carnicom.com/contrails.htm)
* 3 segments aired on ABC / Ted Kopple's "Nighline" which included the testimony of Peter Kawaja on the biowarfare exposure of Gulf War vets. Of the initial 697,000 soldiers deployed to the Gulf War, 489,400+ (70%) are now discharged, 1000s have died and are dying, 67% of their babies born after are born deformed, family/friends/doctors/nurses becoming sick. Mycoplasmas are a part of their sickness.
* UN Wildlands Project - the "re-wilding of America". 50% of the United States is being set aside for global parklands with NO HUMANS ALLOWED. Papers state "human population must be reduced." Concerned citizens site www.wildlandsproject.org/htm/summary.htm
* Damning patents. U.S. patent 5534413 for invasive mycoplasma infection (isolated from the urine of AIDS patients), and THE VACCINE YOU NEVER EVER HEAR ABOUT U.S. Patent 5242820. Mycoplasmas can cause Epstein-Barr/mono, lupus, ALS, MS, meningitis, lymphoma, leukemia, alzheimers, Crohn's Disease, PID, arthritis, fibromyalgia, allergies, asthma etc etc etc. http://members.aol.com/ghylak/mycoplasma.htm and www.gulfwarvets.com/article24.htm
* Lab results from ground samples taken from 2 unassociated parties (Sacramento and E.Oregon) after flyovers from unmarked aircraft reveal biowarfare bacterias named in over 160 Pentagon patents referencing biowarfare applications, toxic molds, ethylene dibromide (a pesticide banned by the EPA which damages lungs/heart/liver/kidneys). (See www.carnicom.com/contrails.htm). "The flu that's not the flu" - hospitals filled to capacity TURNING AWAY patients: "THIS VIRUS IS A MUCH MORE SUCCESSFUL PARASITE", Dr. W. Paul Glezen of the Influena Research Center at Baylor. NEVER has "parasite" been associated with a "virus". A parasite FEEDS FROM THE HOST. A virus, on the other hand, NEEDS A SUSCEPTIBLE HOST'S CELLS TO MULTIPLY. What's Dr. Glezen talking about? Dr. Leonard G. Horowitz states: "Based on the evidence that my colleagues and I have accumulated, I conclude that this flu-like illness IS most likely associated with chemical and biological co-factors." His email: tetra@tetrahedron.org.
* Florescent black light reveals filaments - LOTS - which glows blue, red/orange. Contains barium titanate?, a dielectric used to keep electricity flowing. Using this to : trap moisture to create clouds; build up earth pressures to cause earthquakes, tornados, volcanic eruptions; to create extra tension and stress in humans. The fibers are in a twisted ribbon shape ~3-5 microns thick by ~10 to 13 microns wide. They have imperfections that manifest as small clumps of polymer whiskers ~.5 to 1 micron in diameter by ~5 to 10 microns long. There are large enough by themselves and in sufficient quantity to cause possible long-lasting lung disease. WHERE ARE YOU AMERICAN LUNG ASSOCIATION??
* A microsopic particle count study in New Mexico shows a 16% increase in the magnitude of the average microscopic particle count data of 1999 vs. the average of the COMBINED YEARS of 1996, 1997 and 1998. The difference is significant - at the 99.9% plus level. The conclusion reached is that the microscopic air particle count in New Mexico in 1999 is STRIKINGLY different from that of the preceding 3 years combined. (See www.carnicom.com/contrails.htm).
C. Ominous developments.
* Unusual truck activity across the U.S. Trimac Western tanker trucks that DO NOT display DOT placard codes giving their contents, being WAVED THRU mandatory truck inspection stops! People who slow down to take a "look-see" are being shadowed 20-30 miles by civilian cars escorting the tanker trucks. Trimac is owned by Rentokil of the United Kingdom - they haul pesticides and chemicals for BASF, DuPont and Bayer. (See www.carnicom.com/contrails.htm).
* COMMERCIAL AIRCRAFT ARE NOW BEING USED TO SPRAY - particularly BOEING planes. Also, an aircraft mechanic from a major airline received anonymous "warning" call, job suspension and threats left in his locker after his observing an extra 50gal. plus 2 smaller gal. tanks located near the aircraft waste disposal system. The extra tanks WERE NOT connected to the waste disposal system, but instead led to a box attached to the aircraft's central control and had piping leading to deliberately "hollowed out" wiring connected to the edges of the aircraft's wings. (See www.carnicom.com/contrails.htm).
* Also there are alot of anti-chemtrail activists reporting harrassment, but on 5/19/00 Cliff Carnicom, owner of the most proactive anti-chemtrail website, contacted the FBI regarding impersonation, libel, professional hacking and death threats. His site alone has submitted 3,087 letters to federal officials, and 828 letters to state officials and TO DATE NO RESPONSE HAS BEEN RECEIVED..
D. Announcements.
* Email Congressman Tom Udall. He told a constituent he would ask for Congressional hearings. Let's hold him up to that. tom.udall@mail.house.gov
* Nationwide organization "Citizens Against Chemtrails" is putting together a massive petition for Congressional hearing purposes. Submit your name/address/email at Cliff site: www.carnicom.com/contrails.htm, or email ohwarriorgoddess@earthlink.net
