Palestine Never a State?

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When doing some research on Alex Jones, I heard a caller to his show claim that Palestine was never a State. It seems controlled opposition has it's own controlled opposition and yet another lie is making it's rounds.

Filastin al-Muslimah is a Hamas publication distributed from Britain. Filastin was founded in Jaffa in 1911 by Palestinian Christian Issa al-Issa, and it addressed it's readers as 'Palestinians' which some pronounce Falestine or Phalestine. Even the Christian Bible acknowledges this state when it calls them Philistinians (Palestinians).

Here we can read about the mythical hero Samson slaying a thousand Philistines with the jawbone of an axe:

Judges 15:15-20 15 And he found a new jawbone of an ass, and put forth his hand, and took it, and slew a thousand men therewith. 16 And Samson said, With the jawbone of an ass, heaps upon heaps, with the jaw of an ass have I slain a thousand men. 17 And it came to pass, when he had made an end of speaking, that he cast away the jawbone out of his hand, and called that place Ramathlehi. 18 And he was sore athirst, and called on the LORD, and said, Thou hast given this great deliverance into the hand of thy servant: and now shall I die for thirst, and fall into the hand of the uncircumcised? 19 But God clave an hollow place that was in the jaw, and there came water thereout; and when he had drunk, his spirit came again, and he revived: wherefore he called the name thereof Enhakkore, which is in Lehi unto this day. 20 And he judged Israel in the days of the Philistines twenty years.

This is from one of the oldest books of the Bible, and while the story may be a fairy tail, it still addresses a real place by a people who claim to inherit that place from their God. What is happening in Palestine right now seems to parallel what supposedly happened in the past according to the Bible, except that the USA is playing the part of their magical evil-doing racist God.

Some confusion may stem from the change in Palestine's flag in 1964 to this:

from this:

The change was in response to a surge in Zionism as a way to represent Palestinian Arabs. Palestine has endured more than one temporary occupation including the Ottoman Empire from 1517 until World War I. Britain occupied them under the League of Nations mandate from 1920 to 1948. Between occupations, Palestine was autonomous. Many Jews believed the Balfour Declaration gave them the land of Palestine and after 1920, many uprooted to Palestine and lived with the far more numerous Arabs (by choice). This started before what they call the Holocaust, which was followed by a lot of fraudulent stories and lawsuits which in turn gained sympathy and censorship for the people of a racist religion.

Is Israel the land promised to the Israelites by their God? -See: Gods Chosen People, The Arabs. Are Jews Israelites (descendents of Jacob aka Israel)? -See: They're not Jews: They're Khazars.

	http://www.iranchamber.com/history/cyrus/cyrus.php wrote:
	Cyrus had no thought of forcing conquered people into a single mould, and had the wisdom to leave unchanged the institution of each kingdom he attached to the Persian Crown. In 539 BCE he allowed more than 40,000 Jews to leave Babylon and return to Palestine.

So the Jews were tolerated and set free by Ancient Iran. Will this be paralleled?

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If Cyrus, what of Moses and Joshua?

Here's what's been happening:

Video:
The Wall of Hate

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How come the flag is exactly like the Turkish one`?what's the story behind it?

Would be great if you could post this in a bulletin on myspace.

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Here's a guy that's spreading this lie about Palestine:

Rudy Giuliani: Tougher than Israel on Terror

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Although former Mayor Rudy Giuliani is not a conservative by any stretch of the imagination, even he has enough sense to know who America's enemies are. He knows that a "Palestinian" state would only be a launch pad for terrorism against Israeli civilians. This is something that even the self-hating left-wing establishment ruling Israel doesn't even understand. Giuliani kicked the mass murderer Yasser Arafat out of Lincoln Center while Israel offered him Jerusalem. Giuliani also turned down an America-hating terror-funding Saudi prince when he offered to donate money to New York after the World Trade Center bombing. Israeli leaders should take a page out of the book of Giuliani for a change.

Notice how he identifies the religious aspect to Zionism?

Judaism and Christianity are racist

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Hitler Vs Roosvelt

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	Hitler read a Roosvelt's letter in the Reichstag

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Israel looking for peace for 60 years but never wanting it

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	imaculate wrote:
	Israel looking for peace for 60 years but never wanting it

Israel is a Government of thugs and savages!

Its inhuman treatment of another nation of there own brothers is shameful.

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You could say the same for most governments.

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Of course you are correct.

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	Judges 15:15-20 15 And he found a new jawbone of an ass, and put forth his hand, and took it, and slew a thousand men therewith.

What did they just run up to his weapon one by one in a long lineup and be consistently unlucky so as to get killed by him.........but even then, his calcium-based weapon would have already broken up into pieces after his 5th victim. The only way he would have logically accomplished such a feat was if those "thousand" people were in some sort of defenseless condition (perhaps asleep, or tied up, or blackmailed, or something). And seeing that this is the only logical scenario for a storyline to even be remotely possible -- assuming that his claims are indeed true; which are probably not since he most likely didn't even exist -- he would have to be considered under the category of terrorist.

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	And Samson said, With the jawbone of an ass, heaps upon heaps, with the jaw of an ass have I slain a thousand men.

Taking pride in one's own religiously-driven homicidal campaigns and bragging them to world is yet another common characteristic of a terrorist (in today's mainstream terms that is). Assuming this story is a myth (which it probably is), then his legacy , which is widely perceived as heroic and just by the vast majority of the global population today, is an example of how terrorism can be repetitively promoted as heroism or vice versa. Psychological warfare has always been a reliable strategy by government (govern = to control, ment = mind; government = to control the mindl) + religion (religion = to rely on / to rally on). You see the scriptures such as the Talmud, Bible, Qur'an, etc. can also be considered psywar in written form. Not talking