ZEITGEIST, The Movie - Full Production

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New Official Version (added June 28):

Older Version:

after watching this film I wrote to the maker.

Great Job on this flick.

Just some things that could be added.

As far as ww1 - As you say Lusitania was sunk in 1915 and us entered 1917 under the threat of the Germans reinstating unconditional submarine warfare. The whole mess was hinky since the documents were leak via Mexico. The Telegram is in national archives online. Also there was a claim that a ferry boat was sunk by a uboat in the channel and some americans died, however, that boat showed up on the shores of France and no americans had died. One area that should be added is the offer from Warburg to bring the US into the war for the British in exchange for Palestine. Evidence that these bankers controlled both sides of the war to get what they wanted and make huge profits. Lies with Henry Fords Peace boat and what occurred on board. Benjamin Freedman will give you a blue print for WW1 as what was really going on. The Germans had offered to peace terms no less then 3 times with a pre war status quo - so no one gained or loss land. and this was done when they were winning the War prior to the US coming in.

Also the whole take over of Russia, by the Bolsheviks would add more clarity. The Tsar opposed Central bank, after the take over the Bankers set up shop. and used the country to further their agenda.

As far as WW2 - which was setup by WW1, it might be good to explore the nature of what was really going on and what the goal of the bankers was. WW2, Hitler and Nazis is always a difficult subject to talk about, because people have a lot invested emotionally into it. I guess I am just saying that what we were sold about Hitler and the Nazis may not be the whole truth.**Read William Carrs book - Pawns in the Game**** I can provide you info if interested in probing this further. It really all comes down to Hegelian Dialectics.

Vietnam - to tie back to the take over of the Ford Motor company by the bankers, one of the reasons Henry Ford published the Dearborn press. And as Anthony Sutton describes how the ford motor company was supplying from Russia to Vietnam, the trucks for troops and supplies.

USS Liberty - prime example of trying to stage a false flag op to foster the US in a war with Egypt on behalf of Israel.

There are so many areas that could be added with regards to 911, mainly that you say it is an inside job, but evidence exists that it is certainly and inside - out job. The fact is that many of the bankers of the Federal reserve are foreigners. Also Many of the current Government are dual citizens? How the information agencies actually work together. The dancing israelis on 911, the hebrew conversation that was reported to fbi prior to 911 that was over heard in a graveyard. Atta and the flying circus and how Mossad agents actually had cells setup in every single location that the 19 hijackers lived. etc....

I also firmly believe that after reviewing all the materials I have seen that Israel will play a big role in what is coming.

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I loved the beginning and end, and wouldn't call this an accurate piece. People shouldn't accept everything presented in it without verifying each statement. The long intro, and most of the 9/11 stuff should have been left out imho.

I think they were advocating a gold standard? I wouldn't trust the gold standard since they have good control of that too. They may be able to control buying and selling, and value of gold, but they can't stop us from trading. People have to stop thinking of poverty and wealth in terms of money or the US dollar.

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I watched this late last night before going to bed.

A Jordan Maxwell special! rofl

madthumbs my dear.. you keep saying you wish people would not see wealth in terms of money. I would very much like you to write a post on why you think such things and how we can think of wealth otherwise. I have a feeling of what you are meaning but would love to hear it directly from you. Very Happy

Hope you don't mind me asking.

Although nothing in the video was really new information for me, I had to review it because I love watching videos, especially the 1 hour + ones. And I don't watch TV very much, usually only to catch the show "House."

I feel it's a good all-around "shake-em-up" video to introduce ideas. But as it was mentioned, some of the facts are a bit stretched and conclusions drawn and people need to conduct their own research ultimately.

There is a grief process when someone who doesn't know about this sort of information finally hears it all.

1. Denial
2. Anger
3. Guilt
4. Depression
5. Acceptance

For those of us who share this kind of information with others should keep in mind this grief process. So when someone lashes out at you and calls you names, you can be assured they are just going through the stages and shouldn't perhaps take it personally.

I know I went through this process, with the Anger portion lasting the longest.

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I am in email contact with the maker and He says he put it out on Google to get feedback. So if you have any, let me know I can pass it on.

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	I am in email contact with the maker and He says he put it out on Google to get feedback. So if you have any, let me know I can pass it on.

Direct him to this thread?

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Ceara:

Money must be backed by labor, not commodities. Money should merely be a token, representing the value of the labor you have practiced to allow more flexibility in your endeavors of exchange; to allow occupational specialization by allowing an avoidance of having to practice labor directly for those you wish to obtain commodities or labor from.

Commodity backed money is easily manipulable.
Fiat currency is infinitely manipulable.

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I should have taken notes. I've seen arguments against some parallels between religions that people have put forth. I've brought up these arguments on a forum from an author who alleged them, but it seems like the post disappeared. Doing my own albeit short investigation on plagiarism of the Bible, I didn't really find that many parallels, and not having references for them doesn't help in an argument. If a Muslim, or Christian can discredit even half of the parallels: it certainly doesn't help the case. I'm not saying this is the case, but I think the person that made the video should verify the claims if they haven't based on what I've seen with that, and the lies about the New King James Bible. There's just so much misinformation out there when it comes to religious texts not matter what side you stand on.

A lot of the 9/11 info was sketchy, and used just about every disinfo-agent and over used piece out there. I think the narrator (if it was the narrator) near the end of the video would have done better to make their own comments on just some of the important and non-debunked video points if bothering with 9/11 much at all. Now I've had criticism from people who lost someone in 9/11 for downplaying it, but their loss is little compared to those lost to health fraud, war based on lies, genocide, religion, etc.

The gold standard is a scam and should not be promoted. Like diamonds: they control the price of it, and can compel people to sell it back at a reduced value after they convinced everyone to buy it by the truckloads. Gold is not food, clothing or shelter and has no practical use for most people.

The intro should be trimmed and more exciting. I didn't even know if the video was going to be in English or subtitled or not, and I actually quit watching it the first time I saw it.

I don't mean to sound negative. I thought parts of the video were excellent, and would be excited to hear about a trimmed, and otherwise improved version.

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	Gold is not food, clothing or shelter and has no practical use for most people.

I can't find a good use for it either. Unlike silver, which has antibiotic properties, gold has very little claims to usefullness.

The same company that makes Colloidal Silver makes Colloidal Gold, and has this to say:
http://www.purestcolloids.com/history-gold.htm

None of those applications seem to be very useful to a self-sufficient landowner.

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Added the new official version to the OP.

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i watched it a thought it was pretty good... majority of the info was stuff i had already encountered and moved beyond in the past....

religion part in beginning points out stuff that plenty of other ppl have said... tell that to the rabid foaming at the mouth (from the fluoridated water/tooth paste) christians who say god magically wrote the book and put it under their pillow next to the nickel the tooth fairy gave them...

the 911 section was the same old regurgitated shit from way too many self proclaimed truth tellers/seekers also even more info has surfaced showing israely ties , to this day we dont know who the mastermind is who made it all happen... but atleast we have a good idea of the many ppl who took part in it.... with whats coming ahead i think focusing on them(?) continueing to take our liberties and almost everything else away is a better route then 911... fact is any asswipe can argue it either way and trust me they will come in mass to do just that, ARGUE ... not discuss...

pointing out the money system was good with lots of good info, however not mentioning that lots of those ppl are zionist or work with zionists etc well now that i think about it thats probly irrelevant either way... u pointed out that our money is fake and equals slavery... thats the point... now wtf we gonna do about it?

thats what i want to see, atleast 1 video that actually shows ppl (maybe not necessarilly me but the masses, the ones that are so damn dependant on the system) how to destroy this system once and for all....

noone knows how, noone wants to discuss it, noone wants to do it... because we are ALL stuck in this shithole and destroying the system means losing EVERYTHING! atleast temporarily till we find a way to get it all back without the shitty enslavement system attached...

destroy and burn down all the banks and money u can find... destroy the credit cards... destroy every aspect of the money/slave system and take back what u own... basically it means we have to get our hands dirty.... and ppl with families would much rather send their kids to slave training camps *Cough* i mean schools, then risk having something "bad" happen to them because they "got out of line" .... ( i always found it odd that noone ever considered the fact that their children and grandchildren growing up to be slaves might be a "bad" thing)

slaves will never be free.... only those who are free can choose to NOT be slaves...

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Credit cards? There's no debtor's prison *yet*, so why not use them to invest in things and not pay them off? I've heard some people fight the collectors on grounds of usury. Then there's chapter 7 or is it 12, but that may be un-necessary if you can evade the collector. After 7 years.. do it all again with different cards.

Deuteronomy 23: 20 Unto a stranger thou mayest lend upon usury; but unto thy brother thou shalt not lend upon usury: that the LORD thy God may bless thee in all that thou settest thine hand to in the land whither thou goest to possess it.

- Another double standard (racist) verse from the Bible.

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true u can do that.... u can also establish a fake identity and get even more cards...

thats not the point i was trying to make tho... the point is to eliminate the entire system , not take advantage of it... either way they get their money.... ether way they maintain control... by removing their source of control we can eliminate them entirely

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Mark Dice Interviews Peter J., Producer of Zeitgeist the Movie

This is very suspicious. Why would such a religious whack job like Mark Dice give this guy publicity? Mark Dice is such a fool that he doesn't even warrant an "exposed" page.

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Well, he sure knows his shyte, he is an allegro man.

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I forget that Mark Dice is a total f'ing delusional idiot. One of those who thinks they won when they lost by a mile. I'm still very concerned about the integrity of information in the video, and the choice of resources. It seems like he either took other people's works and slapped them together without researching them or he pulled a Loose Change and intentionally inserted dodgy content in it. Can he substantiate all the parallels between Christianity and Paganism? I understand if he's on a low budget and didn't have time to spend like I once had.

Where did Mark Dice's financing come from? How could he afford to run around to different colleges and act like an idiot? Why does he use 2 different fake names? (I think he asserts that the other name is real, but it isn't)