Sixth Grader Tasered At Middle School

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	POSTED: 5:12 pm EST November 29, 2006 UPDATED: 6:22 pm EST November 29, 2006 JONESBORO -- Officials at Jonesboro Middle School say police tasered an 11-year-old student Wednesday as a last resort. The incident immediately prompted an internal police investigation.

More: http://www.wsbtv.com/news/10424467/detail.html
Vlogged: http://opposingdigits.com/vlog/?p=1147

Last resort? What did the do before taser technology? Rolling Eyes

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The report doesnt include any accounts about how bad the fight was. If the girl had to be treated with emergency aid, it must have been pretty bad. How badly would she have gitten hurt if they hadn't used the taser? I suppose the police officer could have physically broken up the fight, which could also have required hurting the boy, and maybe the girl too if the boy had a tight grip on her. It's hard to say whether using th taser was "necessary" without having been there.

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What police officer couldn't handle an 11 year old boy?

Last edited by madthumbs on Thu Nov 30, 2006 9:16 am; edited 1 time in total

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I agree that this was completely unnecessary.
When I was in school, you have teachers and principals breaking up the fights.
Police would only be called if it was a huge fight (rival gangs) or if there was a shooting.
Didn't happen too often.
The story says it was a school resource officer.
Does the school have officers stationed at the chool for situations like this?
If not, did they just let the fight go on until the cops got there?

From your vlog:
"Used as a last resort? -Twice? What would they have done without the taser? Why did they only show positive responses from parents questioned about the use of tasers on their children?"
To their credit, they did show two interviews.
The first was a lady who completely supported the use of tasers.
The second was a woman who thought it was unnecessary.

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Seeing as i'm still in school and seen many fights, tazer's are never needed. The fights are broken up by staff members of the school. In a lunch room, there is atleast about 5 staff members present (excluding the lunch servers) and now-a-days they have walkie talkie's to commuincate to each other quicker. Now since this boy was only 11 years old I don't see how a cop needed to use it. I'm in the 11th grade which averages about 16-17 year olds and fights can be broken up without using tazers. Recently in a city near me called Orlando was the stabbing of a student and i didn't hear anything about a tazer being use but yet they still caught the kid. The tazering use in this incident is uncalled for.

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I think the little bastard got what he deserved. A tazer isn't shit . Plus look at where the incident took place, in some nice area . If that had happened at any school out here in the ghetto no one would have gave two sexual intercourse but because some little shit gets tazered in a nice community everyone has to make a big stink about it.
I think what people are worried about is the fact that this may lead to more harsh disciplinary action in schools and if thats the case all they have to do is keep making big stinks the way they are and the next time some school cop is going to use a tazer on some kid he will think twice especially in those nicer community's. I think this sort of thing should happen more often ,well with tazers at least I think its a good non lethal way to deal with people that get out of hand. We are very spoiled in the u.s we have it very easy this country is awesome its a place where you can pretty much do what ever you want especially if you have the clout to back it up , we are also the one of the dumbest country's in the world as far as academics we have some of the lowest scores collectively its sad.
My vote is more discipline not all crazy "Third Reich" but enough to keep us in check especially around that age where this kid got tazered because thats the age you start sexual intercourse up at and then it follows you to high school where you just get worse.

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	I think the little bastard got what he deserved. A tazer isn't shit .

I think tazers should be outlawed along w/ chemicals for incarceration punishment , this is a disgusting part of our culture, see the torture america video on opposing digits. Police shouldn't even be allowed to have these occasionally lethal weapons as an alternative. We can train our men and women to serve and protect a little better than this, don't you think?

-- -- and the war on drugs, every town has it's own SWAT team now. Total bullshit, when did the people decide they wanted comando style enforcement for drug abuse?

- and the scariest part, the zionist launder the drug money, and train the police forces. how did Michal Chertoff and Rahm Immanuel get to be so powerful mafia boses in our government?

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Funny, two new posters for a taser video.
I got one for the pro-taser people. It's technology. Police are lazy. They reflect people. Just why do we have a remote for the TV? Batteries waste money. Tasers waste money? That's probably the real truth for tasers, eh (lazy cops)? If that wasn't it, this must have been a huge 11 year old, 6ft 4in, 240lbs, all muscle??

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	Maxout500 wrote:
	If that wasn't it, this must have been a huge 11 year old, 6ft 4in, 240lbs, all muscle??

A similar argument was proposed to a real life female acquaintance known for frailty and laziness who similarly reasoned that the assailant could have been huge based on this person's nephew's size at age 11. I simply asked: could you not lift this person off of someone? -The answer was yes!

What is wrong with society when it's ok to taser a child, but it's illegal to touch or spank them?

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	female acquaintance known for frailty

I remember taser commercials promoted as devices women should use for self-defence. So for a guy among male friends, it would be a funny situation if it was discover one of them had one. So another reason for tasers, other than lazy cops, is to provide female officers with a device to make-up for those with a less than satisfying bod? At least that's one facet of thought of man concerning women with anything physical, and that's one line they'll use if anything wrong happens concerning a female officer with a taser.

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I don't know about where you guys live but in my hood 11 year old kids are already shooting and robbing people so to me a tazer is not a bad idea. I don't think you guys can relate. It is very messed up out here and I am going to move soon but I grew up here and let me tell you the streets are no joke and if you're wearing the wrong colors or look like someone that bangs or you got some nice thing hanging off your neck well then you better hope you have a tazer or some type of protection or pray a cop is near by because if not your gonna have a screwed up day. How would you guys fix a messed up place like this? My vote is more discipline less rap music and t.v and more parental and peer guidance and yea a tazer to the neck to the kid who dont listen every now and again.

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For discipline...

A better solution is school uniforms if you'd like to affect society as a whole. Start with pre-schoolers and moving them up as the child grows from pre-schooler, to when they're in elementary, to middle school, and up to high school. This way the child is accustom to wearing a uniform since he or she has done so since they can remember. I think that's why school uniforms haven't worked in the past because no one is used to them. Why uniforms? It's an attempt to get discipline from students. It makes it clear that school is dedicated for learning and not for looking cool to friends. To reinforce their use, it should cost a letter grade as they do in PE(physical education).

I'm okay with tasers. The problem is they're called non-Lethal weapons when that's a lie. If it's admitted, a greater responsibility will fall on the police officer as it is with guns. The way the taser is designed is also problematic. Instead, the taser can be used as a portable electro shock device of torture. If it was only allowed to go off after every several seconds and a certain duration, the safety would be greatly enhance. Since the taser uses electricity, it should also have a recording device to show how the taser was used. This is good for the officers defense and for any victims of abuse in court.

man killed by taser
http://www.lasvegassun.com/sunbin/stories/lv-crime/2004/jun/28/517090092.html
-was the taser used properly?
-is 7 shocks within 10 minutes right?
-after what point is the officer responsible?
-so there is a distinction here, where the tasers manufacture is responsible and when the officer is responsible.

New guidless should be set, if the taser doesn't work after the first or second try, another method should be requireed to be employed. After the first try or second, the cop should know if he goes any further the risk of death will and more fall on him as the risk of death increase for the person who is know a victum. When is the person considered a victim and not a threat? Is it after the first or second shock? I think this is when. Why all this? The citizens as the officers should know there is protection for them and not have the feeling of being defenseless. If this bothers you as being to weak, then it also bothers you, evoking the suspects Miranda rights, or the police officers prohibition of the use of torture.

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Don't the police in the USA use capsicum spray at all? Aussie police use it with great effect and to this day it has not been responsible for anyone's death (though some people may have a allergic reaction to it) The blatant overuse of Taser's is something for us all to be concerned about due to the high number of deaths they have caused.
How is a police officer to know if the intended victim of their Taser isn't fitted with a pacemaker or has a heart condition. I've had an electric shock of an electric fence and that was painful enough.
Maybe the cops need better training with Taser's so they realise just how lethal these supposed "non-lethal" weapons are.