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Consumption of green tea associated with reduced mortality
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Adults in Japan who consumed higher amounts of green tea had a lower risk of death due to all causes and due to cardiovascular disease, according to a study in the September 13 issue of JAMA. But there was no link between green tea consumption and a reduced risk of death due to cancer.
Tea is the most consumed beverage in the world aside from water. Three billion kilograms of tea are produced each year worldwide, according to background information in the article. Because of the high rates of tea consumption in the global population, even small effects in humans could have large implications for public health. Among teas, green tea polyphenols have been extensively studied as cardiovascular disease (CVD) and cancer chemopreventive agents. Although substantial evidence from in vitro and animal studies indicates that green tea preparations may impede CVD and carcinogenic processes, the possible protective role of green tea consumption against these diseases in humans remains unclear.
Shinichi Kuriyama, M.D., Ph.D., of the Tohoku University School of Public Policy, Sendai, Japan, and colleagues examined the association between green tea consumption and mortality (death rate) due to all causes, CVD, and cancer within a large population. The study, initiated in 1994, included 40,530 adults (age 40 to 79 years) in northeastern Japan, where green tea is widely consumed. Within this region, 80 percent of the population drinks green tea and more than half of them consume 3 or more cups and day. The participants, who had no history of stroke, coronary heart disease, or cancer at baseline, were followed for up to 11 years (1995-2005) for all-cause death and for up to 7 years (1995-2001) for cause-specific death.
Over 11 years of follow-up, 4,209 participants died, and over 7 years of follow-up, 892 participants died of cardiovascular disease and 1,134 participants died of cancer. The researchers found that green tea consumption was inversely associated with death due to all causes and due to cardiovascular disease. Compared with participants who consumed less than 1 cup/d of green tea, those who consumed 5 or more cups/d had a risk of all-cause mortality and CVD mortality that was 16 percent lower (during 11 years of follow-up) and 26 percent lower (during 7 years of follow-up), respectively.
These inverse associations of all-cause and CVD mortality were stronger among women, although the inverse association for green tea consumption was observed in both sexes. In women, compared with those who consumed less than 1 cup/d of green tea, those who consumed 5 or more cups/d had a 31 percent lower risk of CVD death.
The researchers found there no significant association between green tea consumption and death from cancer. There were weak or neutral relationships between black tea or oolong tea and mortality.
Green Tea seems over hyped to me. I've become very wary of things that are pimped by mainstream like soy, canola, etc.
Thu Nov 09, 2006 7:29 pm
funzone36
Joined: 26 Mar 2006 Posts: 707 Location: Toronto,Canada (biggest Canadian city)
Sorry but that thread only talks about how there's fluoride in tea. Well, different areas of the globe has different amount of fluoride in tea. In Canada, we have regulation that it can't go above 1.5 ppm. Tea is most popular in China.
Only black tea contains significant caffeine. Grean Tea is considered a "true" tea.
And when you think about it, fluoride is not the most dangerous pollutant in water. Mercury is.
Fri Nov 10, 2006 7:04 pm
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madthumbs
Joined: 22 Feb 2006 Posts: 8248 Location: Fingerlakes - NY usa
We're not talking about water here; we're talking about tea which absorbs much more fluoride than any other crop right?
Mercury is mostly a problem in vaccinations, and amalgam fillings. Many plants like cilantro and chlorella act as a chelation agent.
If mercury is in the water, it's probably easy to filter out where fluoride is not.
Fri Nov 10, 2006 7:24 pm
funzone36
Joined: 26 Mar 2006 Posts: 707 Location: Toronto,Canada (biggest Canadian city)
Yes, mercury is mostly in vaccines but ground water polluted from landfills has mercury.
And I remember you said distillation removes fluoride.
Fri Nov 10, 2006 7:38 pm
funzone36
Joined: 26 Mar 2006 Posts: 707 Location: Toronto,Canada (biggest Canadian city)
And if you want non-fluoridated water, come to Montreal!!!!
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Approximately 40% of the Canadian population receives fluoridated water[26]
Implementation of fluoridation usually lies with provincial or city governments. Brantford, Ontario became the first city in Canada to fluoridate its water supplies in 1945. In 1955, Toronto approved water fluoridation, but delayed implementation of the program until 1963 due to a campaign against fluoridation by broadcaster Gordon Sinclair.[27] The city continues to fluoridate its water today.[28] There have been some recent decreases in the amount of fluoridation used, however, as it has decreased from 1 to 0.8 to 0.6 mg per litre. Historically, British Columbia has been the province with least percentage of its population receiving fluoridated water.[29] Montreal may be the last major city in Canada which does not fluoridate its water supplies.
Yes, mercury is mostly in vaccines but ground water polluted from landfills has mercury.
And I remember you said distillation removes fluoride.
Were you sharing the research within the post?
Distillation isn't practical for most people and doesn't make for a safe source of water since it tends to be acidic, deprived of minerals and draws minerals to neutralize it's acidity.
Incidentally the "research" is actually a commercial and not for "green tea", but "green tea extract".
Fri Nov 10, 2006 8:02 pm
funzone36
Joined: 26 Mar 2006 Posts: 707 Location: Toronto,Canada (biggest Canadian city)
Didn't know there was a difference between those 2. k, we'll put aside that article then and here's what I think:
1) How can tea contain much more fluoride than water.
2) Only USA in the western world has high concentration of fluoride in their water so people outside of USA shouldn't be too concerned.
3) There's 2 kinds of fluoride anyways. One's organic fluoride which is good and it's the fluoride waste that is bad. We never know which is which in our water.
The US has 36% of all internet traffic. No wonder there's so much fear on the internet about fluoride. For Canadians, Europeans, and Australians, this threat is way overhyped. And since the US has 36% of all internet traffic according to Alexa, no wonder most conspiracies are concentrated towards America.
Fri Nov 10, 2006 9:11 pm
madthumbs
Joined: 22 Feb 2006 Posts: 8248 Location: Fingerlakes - NY usa
1) Tea (the plant) absorbs more fluoride from the ground than any other plant (that I know of).
2) Fluoride is also used in pesticides.
Fri Nov 10, 2006 9:19 pm
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funzone36
Joined: 26 Mar 2006 Posts: 707 Location: Toronto,Canada (biggest Canadian city)
I say just get green tea from other places that doesn't contaminate it. Uji region of Kyoto is considered to have the best green tea. Kyoto does care a lot about the environment and this can been seen when there's a treaty named after it called the Kyoto Treaty that combat the so-called global warming.
Taking a vacation there seems cool. Places in Japan that are not urbanized are beautiful. They have trees that I haven't personally seen.
Sat Nov 11, 2006 12:11 pm
postcardsfrompalestine VIP
Joined: 05 Sep 2006 Posts: 1737 Location: It means good luck - a chinese symbol
There are many teas
You would not believe the different kinds of tea over here. Flower brews and such. There is also a story about an island in Japan where the villagers live well over 100+ . They feed their cattle coral and the calcium levels are very high. To me it seems interesting that many different tribes that had a local diet live longer. We are all able to get the things we need from where we are by eating the local resources.
Anyway I drink Jasmine tea - form of green tea everyday
I think that floride in Toothpaste is more of a threat then green tea. I have switched to an herbal brand, but we still have flouride in the water system here. I think it is unavoidable, but if one can limit the intake that is the ideal situation.
I try to eat corriander aka celantro once a weak, cook it in a soup.
Sun Nov 12, 2006 6:57 pm
funzone36
Joined: 26 Mar 2006 Posts: 707 Location: Toronto,Canada (biggest Canadian city)
You live in Japan? Cool.
You don't swallow toothpaste so it should be a lesser threat than water. I'm sure Japan's fluoride levels in water is at least 10 times lower than in the US.
And remember, folks. Japan has the #1 greatest life expectancy in the world.
Sun Nov 12, 2006 7:10 pm
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Joined: 05 Sep 2006 Posts: 1737 Location: It means good luck - a chinese symbol
Not in Japan
I'm in Hong Kong. HK follows the evil WHO recommendations regarding water and the level of chemicals they put in it. But here we have tons of food markets which is cool, but I am sure they use pestisides and fertilizers. but fresh veggies and fruits is cool. As I said the tea shops have so many varieties. They have one tea where you drop a dried rosebud in your water. But drinking chinese tea is a ritual, they first run hot water through the tea mixture 2 or 3 times and throw away the first couple of cups. then drink the 3rd or 4th cup. Anyway it is cool over here, I been to Vietnam,thailand, cambodia, mainland china, macau, and South Korea. Never made it to Japan. But it is funny to see all the chinese getting fat cause of the McDonalds and other crap western foods that have infiltrated this culture.
It is sad though, cause the international banks control these makets and have enslaved east asia. There was a indonesian prime minister that fought the World bank and refused to take their loans of control, but he is out of office now. So that country is doomed as well.
I use a herbal chinese toothpaste - made from herbs and spices, no sweetners no flouride.
Sun Nov 12, 2006 10:52 pm
madthumbs
Joined: 22 Feb 2006 Posts: 8248 Location: Fingerlakes - NY usa
I've heard Xylitol is good for teeth, and a sweetener, though not as good a sweetener as Stevia.