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Lightchannel



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This thread is a unique one....the purpose of this thread discusses the possible ways to unify and strengthen the voice against corruption, non-love, terrorism, violence, etc. Exploring how to unify Unifying Light Workers and Peace Makers to bring peace to the world. Kindly participate, share discuss, come with creative thoughts.....
There is very urgent requirement of peace to this world. And we also know that there are millions of people who are seeking peace. The problem is that they are not unified in their approach. There are millions of beautiful souls on this earth who are mediators, healers and channels etc. Different ways, methods are employed to bring peace. I wonder what if all such positive forces unite together. No doubt Golden Age will not be far away, in that case...
This is not the time to think of individual path, religion or philology. This is the time of unification. Future religion is no-religion. Future religion is universalism. Let us try to unity different ways and methods into one unified approach to bring peace. This is an attempt to unity such workers with . No religion. No boundaries. No sermons. No leaders. No membership. Just awareness of One humanity.
It is the time to move from Darkness to Light. From non-love to Love, violence to non-violence etc. When we carry more Light, we carry Love, Peace and Truth etc. The Light has Intelligence, Power and Future. The Light is God. The Light brings Change in hearts, nature and environment. There will be no conflicts. No wars.

If you like you can watch Light channeling video on youtube: http://in.youtube.com/watch?v=CYY54HKCuV8
Help yourself and help the world.

DivineLove,
Narendra


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Wed Feb 11, 2009 12:53 am
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Light is Energy. Light has Intelligence, Power and Future. Light is the Source of all creation.

Light brings Peace and Love. Light brings Change in hearts, nature and environment. Light transforms. There will be no conflicts. No wars.

Light heals. Light heals the wounds inflicted by violence and hatred on individuals and countries.

Light purifies our body, mind and intellect. It burns the Karmas of the individual and the countries. When Karmas are cleared, the destinies forced by Karmas change.

Light helps in every way. We can solve our problems, create our destinies and change the destinies of the world.

If many channel the Light, the impact on the world is great. If many channel the Light at the same time, the impact will be faster.

There are many Light workers around the world who are channelling the Light. This has brought a new awareness and there are changes. For more and faster changes, more Light is required. More and millions have to channel the Light. That is why this Movement.
Wed Feb 11, 2009 12:55 am
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What is Light ?
A. Light is the Creative Intelligence behind the Creation. Light is the formless God. Light carries within it Love, Wisdom and Energies. This Light is not the physical light. It is very subtle and pervades the higher subtler realms. It can be accessed by thought, Meditation and by extending our Awareness.

Q. What is the purpose of this Movement ?
A. It is to bring Love and Peace to the Individual, to his surroundings and ultimately to the whole world. It is also to help the individual and the world to enter into the New Age. Light works in many ways and at many levels.

Q. What is the Technique ?
A. It is very simple. Sit comfortably. Close your eyes and relax. Imagine that there is a huge globe of bright white Light above you. Imagine Light from the globe descends, enters and fills you up. Experience the Light for a minute. Then imagine the Light spreading out around you filling up your home, locality and then the entire earth. Spread the Light for seven minutes.

You can practise this at any time. But if all of us practise this at the same time, the impact is better. So, let us practise it when we wake up in the morning and go to bed at night.

Q. Who can practise this Technique and participate in the Movement ?
A. Any one. Every one.


Kindly share your views on this..

DivineLove,
Narendra


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Wed Feb 11, 2009 12:56 am
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What is the purpose of channelling the Light? To heal, heal Mumbai, heal Gaza, heal any wound inflicted by violence and hatred. To heal the individual, to heal the nation, to heal the world. We channel Light for bringing Peace, for bringing New Energies for the New Age, for resurrection, for transformation and for saving the planet from man-made catastrophes.
How does Light work? Not directly. After we channel the Light, the wars do not stop the next day. There will be no dramatic changes. There will be no miracles. The Light works in its own way and there will be changes. There will be benefits.
If the Light is there and has intelligence, why does it not work without getting channelled. It is a Spiritual law that we have to seek, we have to channel. If more number channel Light, the impact would be greater. If more number channel at the same time, the impact is faster. This event would be unique. There would be no sermons, no preachings and there would be no membership drive. The event would be a unique opportunity to create a better life and future. This would be most important Spiritual event in these three decades. This is a part of the Light Channels World Movement.
On 29 FEB 2009 at 7:30 PM local time..plz channel light and pass on this message to all..let us bring peace to whole wolrd ....help yourslef help the world..

DivineLove,
LightChannel
Wed Feb 11, 2009 12:59 am
Lightchannel



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some clarifications on
Meditation, Light Channelling and Healing

Mediation is silencing body mind and intellect. The purpose of Meditation is establishing STILLNESS in our system. In STILLNESS many spiritual process begin. In STILLNESS our awareness expands to the cosmic limits and the cosmic energies enter and work on us to open up hidden faculties in us. Meditation brings STILLNESS. And in STILLNESS we experience GOD. We meditate to grow spiritually.

We Channel light to bring Peace, It is to help the world. When we practise Light Channelling regularly, not only brings benefits to the individual but also to the environment around. If practised by millions, it has the potential to bring positive changes at the global level. A Movement to spread the importance of Light channelling was launched now. If more number of people Channel Light, we can wipe out the darkness.... and we enter Light Age...

Healing is done for an individual and channelling is for everyone, for many. In healing we use special or specific energies. We use different energies, if not every time, we use different energies from individual to individual, even from time to time. It’s not the same energy we always use. But when we channel we use only one energy, which is the cosmic energy, which is generally available. Healing is done for a certain time, period of time. So it’s always done for a particular period of time. But channeling can be done for the entire Life. There is no limitation here at all. Anyone can do the channeling. But not everyone can do healing.
Meditation , Channeling and Healing have different purposes. Depending on our requirement we need to practise them. When you meditate you grow spiritually. When you Channel light you are helping the world, and you use Healing when you want to give relief to somebody who is in pain.

LightChannel
Wed Feb 11, 2009 3:15 am
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If more number channel Light, the impact would be greater. If more number channel at the same time, the impact is faster.


That's it right there. Anything is possible with amounts (quanta). Density of quanta speeds up the process. The bigger the amount, the more inertia (probability) is projected. Keeping this in mind, reality is holographic (non-local) and energy (action) always comes in discrete wholes. This means it doesn't require a huge mass of people "out there" to come together to bring about a revolution; for an individual mind is already wholly equipped to do just that.

Because reality is subjective (self-referential), everything you experience in life (people, situations, results, etc.) depends completely on your mind. They are -- and can only be -- your interpretations of them. The result of group channeling is also solely dependent on your interpretation of it. Groups don't create the result, you do; for the group is merely a mental projection as well. You must remember, that true revolution happens within, not without.

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Wed Feb 11, 2009 1:03 pm
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If more number channel Light, the impact would be greater. If more number channel at the same time, the impact is faster.


That's it right there. Anything is possible with amounts (quanta). Density of quanta speeds up the process. The bigger the amount, the more inertia (probability) is projected. Keeping this in mind, reality is holographic (non-local) and energy (action) always comes in discrete wholes. This means it doesn't require a huge mass of people "out there" to come together to bring about a revolution; for an individual mind is already wholly equipped to do just that.

Because reality is subjective (self-referential), everything you experience in life (people, situations, results, etc.) depends completely on your mind. They are -- and can only be -- your interpretations of them. The result of group channeling is also solely dependent on your interpretation of it. Groups don't create the result, you do; for the group is merely a mental projection as well. You must remember, that true revolution happens within, not without.

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Dear totalitariantiptoe welcome to the discussion..

Dear totalitariantiptoe welcome to the discussion..
Let us understand some more things about Light Channelling before we start the discussion. Light Channelling is not a mental activity. Light Channelling is not judging. The Light we are talking is not the physical light. Light is the subtlest in the creation, subtler than the consciousness. From Light Consciousness created. We are like speck of Light (individual souls) in the ocean of Supreme Light (the creative intelligence God).
When we channel Light we are not channelling the ego, or mental content. When we channel Light we channel – Love, Peace, and Truth. These are different aspects of Light (God) itself. In the human plane we perceive the reality based on our physical senses, hence it appears subjective. In the bigger picture the reality is not subjective.
As I told you already, Light channelling is not judging, it is like this. If you want to remove darkness in a room you just switch on the light. you are not judging the darkness, you just choosing the Light. Where there is light there is no darkness. Simialry, the present collective consciousness of the humanity has chosen the systems based on non-love, greed and violence. To fix this the collective human consciousness has to choose Light which is Love, Peace and Truth. Ultimate it begins with the individual.
The concept of macro-microcosm is again a perception only as I believe- to small bacteria it is the exact reverse of us and what we perceive to be macrocosmic could be musicale for Nature. The forces of Nature and spirit work the same irrespective of the view point of the observer, and if we're able to observe changes only in us and not at the level of organisations, races etc, it's our inability to do so.
Darkness exists at all levels, at the level of individual, family, nation and globally. Each of them has unique spiritual condition depending on how much Light they carry. Lesser the darkness, higher will be the spiritual condition; more the light, lesser the influence of darkness. Thus collective human consciousness has a specific spiritual condition. To improve the spiritual condition of an individual, the individual has to make efforts. To improve the spiritual condition of a family, the whole family has to choose, similarly, at the level of nation and global. Ultimately it begins from an individual.
Some intend for peace, and some indulge in violence. Because the energy created by these conflicting intentions cancels out each other, the net result is what we see in the world. That’s why peace makers have not succeeded completely yet, they are yet to reach the level of critical mass. If 100 people thinking about peace and 1000 people indulging in violence how can we see peace out there? It is always the score that matters.
So we can say that is If more number channel Light, the impact would be greater. If more number channel at the same time, the impact is faster.



DivineLove,
Narendra


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Wed Feb 11, 2009 11:02 pm
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Lightchannel wrote:
Dear totalitariantiptoe welcome to the discussion..


Thanks.

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Light Channelling is not a mental activity.


Every experience in life cannot be separated from the mind's involvement. Just as reading this post requires the involvement of the mind, so too, does the very act of light channeling require a mind to even conceive it in the first place. We must seriously consider the implications of the irrefutable Observation Problem which is central to Quantum Physics.

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Light Channelling is not judging.


According to Quantum Physics, reality is completely subjective -- as 100% proven by the Observation Problem. To judge is to form an opinion; to make an interpretation so to speak. Interpretations are subjective. Light Channeling is therefore a subjective experience.

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The Light we are talking is not the physical light.


Though it's often misused to pertain to material things, the term "physical" is actually code for phi-cycle. Additionally, it's established that the phi is an underlying dynamic throughout nature. The light you talk about, whether of a higher order or not -- because it exists within the fabric of our true nature -- inevitably includes this value in its activity.

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Light is the subtlest in the creation, subtler than the consciousness. From Light Consciousness created.


The mother of all concepts is Existence. Logically, this is irrefutable because also nothing exists. This is due to the fact that Existence is a statement true of itself. This means it is self-referential. Self-reference is self-awareness. Since the concept of Existence is self-aware (self-referential), it is conscious of itself. It is therefore Consciousness. Only Consciousness can be the root of all things, including the light which you speak of.


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We are like speck of Light (individual souls) in the ocean of Supreme Light (the creative intelligence God).


Separation is an illusion of the spacetime matrix which the mind experiences. All that exists is one mind (one consciousness) which changes states in the present (which is persistence aka time aka action). You perceive different people with different minds and different souls, but those perceptions are subjective interpretations. Only one soul can exist, one conscious experiencer of life. That person, is the person who is reading this. Remember the Observation Problem.

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When we channel Light we channel – Love, Peace, and Truth. These are different aspects of Light (God) itself. In the human plane we perceive the reality based on our physical senses, hence it appears subjective. In the bigger picture the reality is not subjective.


Reality is totally subjective. Every aspect of it is subjective. It is completely subjective because every experience in life requires the involvement of the mind. How could you have typed your post without having a mind? How could you even come across knowledge about light channeling without having a mind to interpret the information? You cannot separate the knower from the very act of knowing.

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Where there is light there is no darkness.


One cannot exist without the other. Light and dark co-exist. They do so in order to complete each other's definitions. This is similar to the co-existence of a subjective reality and objective reality; only that an objective reality stems from subjective reality. Objective reality is simply that which is made obvious through virtue of high probability (prove-ability) waves. Waves are actions. Actions are experiences. Experiences are subjective. Objective reality is simply subjective reality that is persisting in a given direction.

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Ultimate it begins with the individual.


Which is why reality is ultimately always subjective. Like I said, objective reality is simply subjective reality persisting in a given direction; which in turn produces higher probability waves. The word "object" consists of Ob which means "to go against", "to be in opposition", "to be in a state of difference" and Ject (variation of Jet) which means "to throw", "to thrust", "to put forth".

You can see objects because of differences. If differences didn't exist, nothing can be perceived. Differences arise through changes of state. Changes of state are waves (actions). Actions are experiences which are subjective. Objective reality is therefore, ultimately and completely subjective.

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The concept of macro-microcosm is again a perception only as I believe- to small bacteria it is the exact reverse of us and what we perceive to be macrocosmic could be musicale for Nature.


Reality is not so much a case of macro / micro dynamics. It seems to be a case involving the mind's changing of state through time (which is non-local and is always active). Time isn't linear but spiraled. This ever changing state of activity is actually persistence itself (which is the present). You can direct persistence through self-action. The more persistent your actions are, the more probability they attain. Once they attain enough probability, they become perceived as objective reality (even though objectivity is ultimately subjective).

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The forces of Nature and spirit work the same irrespective of the view point of the observer, and if we're able to observe changes only in us and not at the level of organisations, races etc, it's our inability to do so.


No. You cannot escape the Observation Problem. Your mind can only experience itself (which includes its interpretations of things it classifies as "separate" and "outside" from itself). There is only one active force in nature, and that is the mind (which is always in a state of action, activity).

The mind is not the brain. The brain is a projection of the mind, just like everything else is. You see, the mind is consciousness itself. It is the Self.


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Thus collective human consciousness has a specific spiritual condition.


There is no "collective" consciousness. There is only ONE consciousness, literally. This explains why you can only experience yourself while perceiving an "outside" world filled with people existing in the "outside". Even as you transcend to other levels of reality, you will still be experiencing via the Self.

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To improve the spiritual condition of an individual, the individual has to make efforts. To improve the spiritual condition of a family, the whole family has to choose, similarly, at the level of nation and global. Ultimately it begins from an individual.


There is no separation between you and what you perceive to be "out there". They are all within your mind. Only you can put in the effort. Only you can choose and feel and think and experience.

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Some intend for peace, and some indulge in violence. Because the energy created by these conflicting intentions cancels out each other, the net result is what we see in the world. That’s why peace makers have not succeeded completely yet, they are yet to reach the level of critical mass. If 100 people thinking about peace and 1000 people indulging in violence how can we see peace out there? It is always the score that matters.


Yes it's all about numbers. That's what quantum physics is all about. Quantum means "amount". The bigger the amount, the more powerful the effect. However, this entire process can only be experienced by one mind because there is only one mind that actually exists. The 100 people you might perceive "out there" thinking about peace and the 1000 people you might perceive "out there" thinking the contrary are simply projections of your mind. They have no power at all. They are your projections.


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So we can say that is If more number channel Light, the impact would be greater. If more number channel at the same time, the impact is faster.


Yes, but the difference is that you externalize these things, whereas I internalize everything and everyone. You postulate that there is an objective reality separate from the individual. I on the contrary, postulate that reality is ultimately completely subjective -- even objective reality itself (which is merely a reflection).

I understand that what I post is pure solipsism -- and this is likely depressing to accept at first. But once you realize that you are literally everything and everyone, and that everything and everyone is within your mind, then you can never truly feel alone again (even though you are all one).
Thu Feb 12, 2009 5:57 am
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Light Channelling is not a mental activity.

totalitariantiptoe wrote:

Every experience in life cannot be separated from the mind's involvement. Just as reading this post requires the involvement of the mind, so too, does the very act of light channelling require a mind to even conceive it in the first place. We must seriously consider the implications of the irrefutable Observation Problem which is central to Quantum Physics.

When i say Light Channelling is not a mental activity, i did not mean to say mind is not involved there. Without mind we cannot operate in this 3D plane at all. While channelling Light the source of the energy/vibrations are much deeper than the mind. We have much subtler bodies than the mind. For ex. when we are conscious in this 3D world, “I” originates from mind. But when we transcend the mind, “I” is no long bound by the mind and its content. Mind is just a tool for “I” to operate in physical or 3D reality.


Divine Love,
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Light Channelling is not judging.

totalitariantiptoe wrote:
According to Quantum Physics, reality is completely subjective -- as 100% proven by the Observation Problem. To judge is to form an opinion; to make an interpretation so to speak. Interpretations are subjective. Light Channeling is therefore a subjective experience.

The perception of reality as subjective or objective depends on, the level from which we are perceiving. Nothing exists outside of “ME” when I experience oneness with “ALL THAT IS” (I AM THAT state) hence, the question of subjective does arise from that level at all, as “I AM” one with everything that IS.
As a normal human being, when I am operating in this physical plane, my Awareness is limited to the body, mind and intellect only. Hence I perceive everything in isolation as a subjective reality.
Light Channelling is not an experience. It intending for Love, Peace etc and strengthening that intention with Light.
We all are connected, although we perceive as separate. Our choice affects others. When i choose Peace, it is positive effect on the rest of the world. The point is not whether it is subjective or objective. The point is can an individual contribute peace love to the rest of the world with his choice.

Divine Love,
LightChannel
Thu Feb 12, 2009 1:10 pm
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Lightchannel wrote:
The Light we are talking is not the physical light.

totalitariantiptoe wrote:
Though it's often misused to pertain to material things, the term "physical" is actually code for phi-cycle. Additionally, it's established that the phi is an underlying dynamic throughout nature. The light you talk about, whether of a higher order or not -- because it exists within the fabric of our true nature -- inevitably includes this value in its activity.

The whole creation, irrespective of the level of manifestation includes, Light as a subtlest reality. Light became dense and denser. As it became denser, this creation came out. So there is nothing in this creation, which is not LIGHT.

Divine Love,
LightChannel
Thu Feb 12, 2009 1:11 pm
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Lightchannel wrote:
Light is the subtlest in the creation, subtler than the consciousness. From Light Consciousness created.

totalitariantiptoe wrote:
The mother of all concepts is Existence. Logically, this is irrefutable because also nothing exists. This is due to the fact that Existence is a statement true of itself. This means it is self-referential. Self-reference is self-awareness.

Before Existence, before Manifestation, before creation, there was Unmanifested. God has two aspects, Manifestated and Unmanifested. God is in continues state of unmanifested becoming manifested. As Unmanifested part becomes Manifested, He become self-aware. To Manifest is to become exist, and to exist is to become self-aware.
Unmanifested aspect of GOD is beyond time, beyond the description. Unmanifested aspect cannot be known from the manifested. Unmanifest aspect is unknowable forever.


totalitariantiptoe wrote:
Since the concept of Existence is self-aware (self-referential), it is conscious of itself. It is therefore Consciousness. Only Consciousness can be the root of all things, including the light which you speak of.

Because, Awareness, Consciousness and Light are loosely used everywhere. These terms have different meaning to different people. So at this stage, I would like to pause.



Divine Love,
LightChannel
Thu Feb 12, 2009 1:12 pm
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Lightchannel wrote:
We are like speck of Light (individual souls) in the ocean of Supreme Light (the creative intelligence God).

totalitariantiptoe wrote:
Separation is an illusion of the spacetime matrix which the mind experiences. All that exists is one mind (one consciousness) which changes states in the present (which is persistence aka time aka action). You perceive different people with different minds and different souls, but those perceptions are subjective interpretations. Only one soul can exist, one conscious experiencer of life. That person, is the person who is reading this. Remember the Observation Problem.

We as a soul retain our individuality, even if we experience oneness with GOD. It is not exactly separation. It is difficult to understand logically. GOD is not just the sum of all the souls. HE is much more. God is experiencing though individual souls. He is both the experience and the experiencer. A part of the manifested aspect of God, become experincer (individual souls) and another part of it became the creation, which is the platform for the experience to experience. So when we talk about subjective an objective relationship, we must specify from which angle we are referring to.
Divine Love,
LightChannel
Thu Feb 12, 2009 1:14 pm
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Lightchannel wrote:
When we channel Light we channel – Love, Peace, and Truth. These are different aspects of Light (God) itself. In the human plane we perceive the reality based on our physical senses, hence it appears subjective. In the bigger picture the reality is not subjective.


totalitariantiptoe wrote:
Reality is totally subjective. Every aspect of it is subjective. It is completely subjective because every experience in life requires the involvement of the mind. How could you have typed your post without having a mind? How could you even come across knowledge about light channeling without having a mind to interpret the information? You cannot separate the knower from the very act of knowing.


This point is addressed before.
Thu Feb 12, 2009 1:15 pm
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Lightchannel wrote:
Where there is light there is no darkness.

totalitariantiptoe wrote:
One cannot exist without the other. Light and dark co-exist. They do so in order to complete each other's definitions. This is similar to the co-existence of a subjective reality and objective reality; only that an objective reality stems from subjective reality. Objective reality is simply that which is made obvious through virtue of high probability (prove-ability) waves. Waves are actions. Actions are experiences. Experiences are subjective. Objective reality is simply subjective reality that is persisting in a given direction.

Both the opinions are true, when we look from different levels.

Divine Love,
LightChannel
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