RIC vs Alan Watt

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	and I got them from other guys who put out books as well -- I said I wouldn't join I would not mislead the people. And then they threatened to get me off different radio stations, if I didn't go along with them. That just happened, by the way, with Red Ice. ..so you have no idea what really goes on.

Interesting fight going on or something. Alan doesn't buy into space aliens and lizards and is no longer invited on to RIC radio.

I like RIC, however, I have stopped listening to them for a while now last show was the Allen Watt show, I find the Lizard and Alien stuff just a waste of time personally. At Times RIC seems very New Age, and I just can't get into the whole New Age thing.

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I think Tsarion getting a forum and David Icke all of the sudden coming out of no where clearly showed what was going on there.

These give you good info then slide in crap info just leave you scratching your head at the end. Good thing logic exists. Rolling Eyes

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Ouch, I'm not a big fan of Allen Watt (in the entertainment sense), but I know some of our core members are regular listeners, and I've got nothing to say against him. If someone were to invite him here, we may have a kick-ass web-radio lineup between him and MrBS despite only being two (if we can get them aboard). My guess is that these two are the best in the business even if MrBS is a n00b. Both seem to be looking for a new host / home, and we could use audio shows.

Anyone that's been in contact with Allen or knows him better than me, feel free to contact him regarding this idea. Edisme is an admin here, and postcardsfrompalestine is a vlog editor or moderator. Both are considered core members and ambassadors of this site afaic.

Working together we can get OUR voices heard more and maybe be able to stand in league with the Tsarion's and Icke's eventually.

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I've been in contact with Alan via email and telephone, so I'll try and see what I can do... but how do you wanna approach this because he's not much of a forum guy, or were you thinking of getting him on as a guest if the OD show comes to life...

As for R-ice, they do very much seem to lean on the New Age style approach to life... and honestly... I think Tsarion and his theory that we all still exist just because some advanced aliens shot down the wrong planet and gridded the rest... doesn't only seem "preposterous" (with an english accent), but it makes D-icke look like a boyscout.
I'll send Hendrik an email to get their take...

Here I am talking like I know these ppl, but hey 'they are only ppl' and there's an endless mirror type effect going on inside...

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I was thinking of getting a small quality group of radio personalities to have some synergism with the site and each other if possible (we'd be advertising for them, and them for us). One aspect this site is weak on is the audio dept. We tried a radio page earlier, but it didn't work out at the time.

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Sorry Op... we changed the subject of this post... but more on the topic, I emailed R-Ice... still waiting for his response. I was thinking that maybe Hendrik is being influenced by MT as he is very much respected in that circle, and sometimes he may be a bit naive... his demeanor changes with different radio hosts and sometimes he clearly looses the edge with his guests.

(IMHO) I've heard the subtle comments made by AW and MT toward each other and if you listen closely... you would make out the references but yet Hendrik do not call them out on this issue... but they make clear and distinctive references to Alex and the likes... nor does he make a stance!!! not that he has to, but it would be easier said than done... since theirs too is a business and when u depend on subscriptions it becomes much harder to control the mic.

With Vyz you understand exactly where he stands but I can't get a definite take on R-Ice's position.

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Send me a pm if you want the topic split. -thanks

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	Michael Tsarion Is he a Rosicrucian? Is that a degree offered by the Scottish Rite of freemasonry? Is their goal the unification of world religions for their world government? Was he trained to be a “world teacher” by the theosophical society? Like Blavatsky and Crowley? Is his agenda “kind of like” or exactly that of the Illuminati networks?

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I don't know why but MT just rubbed me up the wrong way... (MT = Michael Tsarion / not MadThumbs)

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This is the response I got from RIC.

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Good to hear from you *Gunther*, and I hope all is well.

We are doing fine thank you, and have learned a lot over these last few days. and can be summarized like this, ”If you don’t choose sides, you risk being attacked by all”

Ok let’s try to find out what’s going on.

On the 20th of November we told Alan that we will take a break in our regular recordings, pretty straight forward. And to this day we have not heard a pip from Alan himself (I don’t know why), instead we have received Emails (Emails started coming after November 23rd, Hmm…wonder why?) from “his followers?” condemning and putting curses (hi hi hi) on us, claiming that me and Henrik (and this is people telling “us” what’s going on) are forcing Alan to talk about things that he do not want to talk about.

On the 23rd of November Alan did the now infamous blurb (the one that you refer to). And I ask that you please listen to that passage again (it starts with a caller complaining about “good quality?” Dvd productions, I guess the truth only comes in bad sound and picture quality) and see if you can make out or decode what he (Alan) is actually saying, because frankly, I do not understand what he is saying.

I have no idea if he is a so called disinformation agent, but I do have serious questions regarding his methods of information gathering and how he comes to his conclusions. I will say this though, Alan is no amateur when it comes to language, and rhetoric, and these are powerful tools when it comes to persuade or control “susceptive” people. Is Alan a so called Deprogrammer or is he a Reprogrammer? My gut feeling is that there is a cult forming around Alan, whether he himself wants it or not. We have received threatening and plane hostile Emails in a kind of “the light have disappeared from the world” undertones, and all that has happened is that 2 guys from the west coast of Sweden have decided to take a break with one of their regular guest.

I appreciate your approach very much.

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I don't really want to start a war with those guys buy Vic is an efriend of mind and I thought this was hillarious.

rofl

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Does Alan Watt live in Scotland? I could interview him if you put up a list of question you want to ask him, if he does not like using forums and I can understand why, some of the big forums are just faceless football grounds and the voice of logic and reason is lost under a thousand muppets chanting pish.

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I believe he is Scottish living in Canada