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A Practical Guide to Suicide
Part of the reason for posting this is due to the controversy over Lethal Injection which is thought to be an extremely painful way to die. The subject is paralyzed but can still feel while the poison is ravashing their body.
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A veterinarian testified Tuesday he would not euthanize animals the same way that California executes inmates.
-Posted in a bulletin without a source.
Many times people attempt suicide and end up maiming themselves or killing/ injuring others. I believe people should have the right to have control over their own lives especially in light of the legality of abortion.
Here is a guide I came across when I was searching for the best method for me when I thought I was at the end of my ropes:
Even if you fully research and commit to one of these methods; it's no guarantee. I know of at least 3 people who have failed in such methods as: car exhaust, nitrogen (intert gas), hanging, jumping from a bridge, and ODing. In every instance; the method only created more problems and all of the people are alive over a year after the attempt. I believe most attempts are failures. Please consider this and the fact that these people were able to carry on in life afterward without attempting again. They also have contributed good to this world by being here.
Instead of executing death row inmates, why not draft them?
Or bring back the firing squad? A bullet to the head is quick, pain is minimal. It gets the job done. Another option: play some music for the inmates, you know what I'm talking about? This new top 40 depressing "go home and slit your throat" music all the time and eventually, they will be driven so mad that they kill themselves. I know when my friend listens to that crap, I just want to snuff it. Maybe it would have the same effect on the prisoners. I'm not a fan of the death penalty myself. I think justice would serve murderers better if the authorities turned them over to the victims' families.
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I read somewhere that the best and least painful way to go is drowning. Once your lungs are full of water the pain stops and you float peacefully to the bottom of the sea/lake/bath.
N.B. I catfish have absolutely NO intention of commiting suicide just in case anyone was wondering!
I read somewhere that the best and least painful way to go is drowning. Once your lungs are full of water the pain stops and you float peacefully to the bottom of the sea/lake/bath.
N.B. I catfish have absolutely NO intention of commiting suicide just in case anyone was wondering!
I've heard that too, but i kind of doubt it. Yeh, it's probably not that bad when you've lost your conscience, but until then.. The panic and the loss of air.. I think a shot at the right spot is the way to go:P
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Part of the reason for posting this is due to the controversy over Lethal Injection which is thought to be an extremely painful way to die. The subject is paralyzed but can still feel while the poison is ravashing their body.
Quote:
A veterinarian testified Tuesday he would not euthanize animals the same way that California executes inmates.
So the injection they put on animals is different than the ones used on humans? What's the difference?
That link gives me the creeps:P
Sun Oct 01, 2006 7:59 am
Opiate
Joined: 14 Aug 2006 Posts: 243 Location: False Apostle Rebuttal below::READ IT
Animals are ODed with whatever it is, I think it is less painful for them--not sure, thats what the vet said LOL.
Not that I condone it, but still, many people on death row deserve it according to common law. Live by the sword, you die by it. Of course there are exceptions, but with imperfect men, the law is imperfect as well, so is judgment.
Instead of executing death row inmates, why not draft them?
I agree, but it would probably be hard to make them co-op LOL. Maybe we could use them to detonate the cluster bomb filled areas and save some innocent children.
Sun Oct 01, 2006 8:33 pm
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I was searching for the best method for me when I thought I was at the end of my ropes:
Thats too bad MT. Glad you're still alive--I'd hate to see a life wasted.
Animals are ODed with whatever it is, I think it is less painful for them--not sure, thats what the vet said LOL.
Not that I condone it, but still, many people on death row deserve it according to common law. Live by the sword, you die by it. Of course there are exceptions, but with imperfect men, the law is imperfect as well, so is judgment.
Instead of executing death row inmates, why not draft them?
I agree, but it would probably be hard to make them co-op LOL. Maybe we could use them to detonate the cluster bomb filled areas and save some innocent children.
Im not really against the death penalty either. I mean, a murder is a serious crime and you need to get consequences for your actions. Real consequences.
No matter what law the country chooses to have, there will always be victims. Like you said, no law is perfect and you can't please everyone. I live in a country where they don't have the death penalty and if not mistaken, the maximum year of sentence is 21 years? And of course, no one really gets the full sentence. I'd much rather have the death penalty than having some maniac go free after some years. Just imagine how the victims family feels. And im pretty sure it's proven that, once crossing the line, you'll do it again. I've heard several stories about people who have committed a bad crime and are out of prison, do it again.
Only sad thing is, there will be innocent people too. What about those who did something in selfdefense and couldn't prove it?
Anyway, this is another discussion. Im sure there's a thread somewhere discussing this.
ps. the cluster bomb idea isn't such a bad idea, hehe. Or send them to war, but kind of doubt thats a good idea.
But back to the suicide thing..
Taking your own life can't be easy at all. It's sad that someone feels that ''this is it'' and go through with it. Suicide is such a difficult thing to discuss.
Is it true that there were less suicides in the old days? I've heard that some of the reasons more people suicide now a days is because we're spoiled. We expect too much of life. What do people think about that? Of course, this isn't the case for everyone. Like the same with developed countries and non developed ones. If im not mistaken, more people suicide in the western countries. And where i live, Norway, being one of the wealthiest countries in the world, i've also read that we're one of the countries with high suicide statistics? It kind of makes you wonder if the ''spoiled'' part is true in some part. Again, not in all cases.
Mon Oct 02, 2006 5:11 am
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why not be a suicide bomber... or if u really wanna die try jumping off a really tall building the world trade.... i mean sears tower or somethin....
atleast that way u know the hospital wont save u, theyll have a hard enough time scrapin ur ass off the pavement....
as for reasons ppl would comit suicide, perhaps not having a reason left to live could be one, being spoiled may have a part in it , however if someone is very hated (ie no friends, dinowned by family for whatever reason) thats one reason someone might do it, life being shitty...
there are many reasons a person may want to leave.... lets face it, humans have help to make the planet as shitty as ever, i never understood why only a few ppl should be allowed to live comfortably or luxuriously...
i dont care about living luxuriously, i just want to live without being bothered by trivial bullshit... however ive yet to meet a human or group of humans that knows how to mind their sexual intercourse business... perhaps iff ppl kept to themselves more a lot of conflicts might not be a prob...
either way different ppl have different reasons.... forcing ppl to stay here in sexual intercourse up living conditions when they want to leave is rather fvcked up imo...
i say let the person make the choice for themselves...
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I live without luxuries. posessions are just like little anchors, holding you in 1 spot. You can't travel with a huge T.V. or all the furniture.. I have nothing except that which I can pack into a bag and take off with it. my money is used for travel and food. I go where I want, when I want as long as I can afford it. I mind my own and am not bothered by trivial B.S. if people could just let go of their posessions, leave them behind, they can be free to do whatever without worrying and having to ask "what about all my stuff?". I can live in a car if I had to. I traveled across 7 states just to be exploited by "Friends" sometimes it doesn't do a person good to have friends either. People do not understand that it's useless to live through other people. The best way to avoid all the drama is to leave it behind you.
Tue Oct 03, 2006 9:38 am
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The best way to avoid all the drama is to leave it behind you.
I personally dont advice "leaving it behind." It always catches up to you. There is drama in my family circle, but not my own family. I merely stay out of their problems, mind my own business and never get caught up in it. If it concerns me, i take care of it the best i can and move on.
The best way to avoid all the drama is to leave it behind you.
I personally dont advice "leaving it behind." It always catches up to you. There is drama in my family circle, but not my own family. I merely stay out of their problems, mind my own business and never get caught up in it. If it concerns me, i take care of it the best i can and move on.
Move on, leave it behind, not much of a difference.
Tue Oct 03, 2006 11:34 am
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Move on, leave it behind, not much of a difference.
There is a difference, because I just didn't say "move on." I said i took care of my problems the best I could, THEN I moved on. I don't just "move on" and hope they don't follow me.
Tue Oct 03, 2006 4:28 pm
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Joined: 22 Feb 2006 Posts: 8249 Location: Fingerlakes - NY usa
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Florida governor suspends executions; California judge declares injection method unconstitutional The Associated Press
Published: 2006-12-15 19:20:03
OCALA, Florida: Gov. Jeb Bush suspended all executions in Florida after a medical examiner said that prison officials botched the insertion of the needles when a convicted killer was put to death earlier this week.
Separately, a federal judge in California on Friday extended a moratorium on executions in the United States' most populous state, declaring that the state's method of lethal injection violates the constitutional ban on cruel and unusual punishment.
U.S. District Judge Jeremy Fogel ruled in San Jose that California's "implementation of lethal injection is broken, but it can be fixed."
The decisions are the latest in a nationwide challenge to lethal injection — the preferred method of execution in 37 U.S. states — as cruel and unusual punishment. Last month, a federal judge declared Missouri's injection method, which is similar to California's, unconstitutional.
In Florida, medical examiner Dr. William Hamilton said Wednesday's execution of Angel Nieves Diaz took 34 minutes — twice as long as usual — and required a rare second dose of lethal chemicals because the needles were inserted clear through his veins and into the flesh in his arms. The chemicals are supposed to go into the veins.
