F-CK YOU. Are you one of those people that think that everyone from the south is a moron?
No, I'm not 1 of those people. I was making a joke. Racism and illiteracy seem to be rampant here is all. I'm from the south myself. Jeez! I swear, you have no sense of humor.
People steal my work all the time and don't give me credit, sure it bugs me, but I just let it go. I'm too busy to worry about it. Plus at least the info is getting passed around. I had a problem with one person that clearly had no idea what they were talking about, and like all people that lose debates this person resorted to name calling, calling me a gov. plant, a Illuminati, a free mason..etc etc to watch out for me...lmao Some of this person's own friends turned on them because of this person making false claims about me... and this person is still crying over that. The person even called me a newB, which I thought was funny, since I been exposing corruption for over 20 years. Turns out this person, whom is the same age as me, has only been into politics for a year & a half WOW, crazy eh?
I understand when some people lust learn about Zionism like *cough* madthumbs *cough* just recently learned about Zionism, I understand how when some make this connection [do to others explaining it to them] they have this revelation... and are ecstatic about this newly found revelation, all of a sudden to them the whole world is a Zionist. What blows my mind is most of these actual newB's are Christians, and all Christians worship jews, and yet they hate jews.
Enough bitching, you want solutions? I have them!
1. Iraq must b made into 3 states; shiite, sonni, kurd. Each with their own state laws..etc and each state can vote into office who they want to represent them in the parliament..etc The oil will be government jobs and the proceeds are to be dived equally amongst the states...etc
2. Pull out of Iraq, and the rest of the middle east, having just embassies only.
3. Cut all ties with Israel.
4. Buy American made products only, China's economy is booming right now, this is do to the US buying so many made in china products via corporations like walmart. Many Chinese are now able to afford cars, and so they need more oil and they get that oil from places like Iran...ect
5. Print our own money interest free.
6. get the mass sheeple to vote Independent only, thus doing away with the 2 corrupt parties that are beyond repair.
7. Outlaw Lobbying.
8. Teach is schools how God is a lie and there's no such thing, ban all religions and belief in invisible men with magical super powers that can create the entire universe in 6 days.
9. The sheeple must understand that religion is for the simple minds that can not understand science. It;s a form of government control.
10. okay okay YES I think god worshiping is ridiculous, if I offended anyone with that? I make no apologies whatsoever.
why? It's this believe in god(s) that is the root of all the problems in this world, not to mention power, greed...etc
I can go on and on with solutions..........
That shall be enough for now.
My thoughts on banning anyone from any website or form:
I believe in freedom of speech and I can not stand the chickenshits that ban anyone for any reason.
My thoughts on name calling:
That's what some people do when they loses a debate, they resort to straw man tactics, and it only reflects poorly on them.
People steal my work all the time and don't give me credit, sure it bugs me, but I just let it go. I'm too busy to worry about it. Plus at least the info is getting passed around. I had a problem with one person that clearly had no idea what they were talking about, and like all people that lose debates this person resorted to name calling, calling me a gov. plant, a Illuminati, a free mason..etc etc to watch out for me...lmao Some of this person's own friends turned on them because of this person making false claims about me... and this person is still crying over that. The person even called me a newB, which I thought was funny, since I been exposing corruption for over 20 years. Turns out this person, whom is the same age as me, has only been into politics for a year & a half WOW, crazy eh?
I understand when some people lust learn about Zionism like *cough* madthumbs *cough* just recently learned about Zionism, I understand how when some make this connection [do to others explaining it to them] they have this revelation... and are ecstatic about this newly found revelation, all of a sudden to them the whole world is a Zionist. What blows my mind is most of these actual newB's are Christians, and all Christians worship jews, and yet they hate jews.
Enough bitching, you want solutions? I have them!
1. Iraq must b made into 3 states; shiite, sonni, kurd. Each with their own state laws..etc and each state can vote into office who they want to represent them in the parliament..etc The oil will be government jobs and the proceeds are to be dived equally amongst the states...etc
2. Pull out of Iraq, and the rest of the middle east, having just embassies only.
3. Cut all ties with Israel.
4. Buy American made products only, China's economy is booming right now, this is do to the US buying so many made in china products via corporations like walmart. Many Chinese are now able to afford cars, and so they need more oil and they get that oil from places like Iran...ect
5. Print our own money interest free.
6. get the mass sheeple to vote Independent only, thus doing away with the 2 corrupt parties that are beyond repair.
7. Outlaw Lobbying.
8. Teach is schools how God is a lie and there's no such thing, ban all religions and belief in invisible men with magical super powers that can create the entire universe in 6 days.
9. The sheeple must understand that religion is for the simple minds that can not understand science. It;s a form of government control.
10. okay okay YES I think god worshiping is ridiculous, if I offended anyone with that? I make no apologies whatsoever.
why? It's this believe in god(s) that is the root of all the problems in this world, not to mention power, greed...etc
I can go on and on with solutions..........
That shall be enough for now.
My thoughts on banning anyone from any website or form:
I believe in freedom of speech and I can not stand the chickenshits that ban anyone for any reason.
My thoughts on name calling:
That's what some people do when they loses a debate, they resort to straw man tactics, and it only reflects poorly on them.
I'm all for doing away with religion all together. That's the root of all our strife. People just need a religion because they need something to cling to. They need a dream to live in. They created the false reality to escape the troubles we face day to day. Men have always made the law. Men have always broken the law and blamed it on someone else (satan). Without religion there would be no devils to blame and no false prophets and self-proclaimed saviors to follow. People need these things because they refuse to take responsibility for themselves, they refuse to transcend their primal urges and they refuse to see that they can be wrong some of the time too. When both sides are right, who wins? In all honesty, I choose not to follow anything that was created, perverted, and implemented by men. The same men who touch little boys, treat women like slaves and do the lord's work. If the lord's work includes molesting children and devaluing women, I certainly want nothing to do with it!
1. Iraq must b made into 3 states; shiite, sonni, kurd. Each with their own state laws..etc and each state can vote into office who they want to represent them in the parliament..etc The oil will be government jobs and the proceeds are to be dived equally amongst the states...etc
why don't we just leave and let them decide how to rule themselves?
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2. Pull out of Iraq, and the rest of the middle east, having just embassies only.
3. Cut all ties with Israel.
4. Buy American made products only, China's economy is booming right now, this is do to the US buying so many made in china products via corporations like walmart. Many Chinese are now able to afford cars, and so they need more oil and they get that oil from places like Iran...ect
5. Print our own money interest free.
great ideas
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6. get the mass sheeple to vote Independent only, thus doing away with the 2 corrupt parties that are beyond repair.
7. Outlaw Lobbying.
8. Teach is schools how God is a lie and there's no such thing, ban all religions and belief in invisible men with magical super powers that can create the entire universe in 6 days.
9. The sheeple must understand that religion is for the simple minds that can not understand science. It;s a form of government control.
10. okay okay YES I think god worshiping is ridiculous, if I offended anyone with that? I make no apologies whatsoever.
why? It's this believe in god(s) that is the root of all the problems in this world, not to mention power, greed...etc
these ideas suck, we can't look to the majority for change, or leadership, or morality: because they've already proven themselves unworthy.
Lobbying isnt' the problem, in fact its needed for citizen redress. The problem is that lawmakers can spend money in secret [buried deep in telephone book size bills] w/o oversight or light of day
9&10 are recipe for estrangement / alienation
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TRUTH always comes out.....
you must be dreaming, most choose to ignore it, it may come out, but it will never be accepted by majority
the protocols of the learned elders of zion are accurate in there opening: there really are more amoral people than moral ones
Wed Nov 15, 2006 8:44 am
Bhang
Joined: 10 May 2006 Posts: 4 Location: American Underground
Hey all, I have a little gripe w/Madthumbs as well; yet I will not resort to name calling (this time). You see, it's all good that we try to inform people of the more important matters of our day and I too have had work taken/used without credit, yet to my dismay, I was surfing around on Opposing Digits, I find this thread and learn that our associate Madthumbs here has been upset due to others taking work and not linking back....
I always link back on my site ( www.wachadoo.com/forum ) and if I do not have the link I state that I do not. It came to my attention a few months back that Madthumbs was just dropping by our forum to plug his own site, which was fine the first 20 times but it began to get old, yet this is not even my complaint. My problem is thus: After telling me how great my work was he nabbed it and put it up on O.D. which was fine because he linked back to us, yet just a month later I found the link to be removed (at least he still gave me credit). This means Madthumbs went out of the way to remove the link to the original work, which in my opinion, is a dirty trick to keep people at his own site. I also understand that that Madthumbs wants to move up on the Top Conspiracy Site listing but hording the information and pretending like you were to one to find/learn/understand/express/share the information first is pretty low in my opinion. I just had to say it because it is true and those are my honest feelings...
I dont come here to post very often due to my tight schedules but I'm still willing to contribute if I could get acknowledgment of stated issue and maybe we could work as a team instead of guys who compete for votes. We are only a three man team over at wachadoo and we have EARNED our 5th place status in the Top Conspiracy Sites of the English speaking world. Vile trickery and shameless spamming will breed naught but contempt and karmic retribution. I ask ask for peace and understanding in this matter.
Thank you much,
Bhang @ wachadoo & the american underground.
Wed Nov 22, 2006 10:34 am
madthumbs
Joined: 22 Feb 2006 Posts: 8246 Location: Fingerlakes - NY usa
Bhang wrote:
I too have had work taken/used without credit, yet to my dismay I was surfing around on Opposing Digits, I find this thread and learn that our associate Madthumbs here has been upset due to others taking work and not linking back....
-Specifically posting that work (often full web pages) on Zionist owned/ controlled sites who assist in bandwidth theft abusing image and video hosting as well.
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It came to my attention a few months back that Madthumbs was just dropping by our forum to plug his own site, which was fine the first 20 times but it begins to get old but this is not even my complaint.
Conjecture. As with Ry's site; I was occasionally posting links to vlogged videos which make certain videos down-loadable. These videos have often been removed at their sources and replaced on our vlog. Some sites see it as a service to their forum. Neither Ry or you complained directly to me about it; instead you chose to rant publicly. I will cease to contribute or abuse (as if) your forum from here out.
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My problem is thus: After telling me how great my work was he nabbed it and put it up on O.D. which was fine because he linked back to us, yet just a month later I found the link to be removed (at least he still gave me credit).
Your work will be removed. The link was removed because of the hostile illogical defense of Alex Jones on your forum.
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This means Madthumbs went out of the way to remove the link to the original work, which in my opinion really stinks to high heaven.
Were you the photographer, software designer, computer developer, etc that also contributed to this work? Included on the page you're referring to was "-The above information and images provided by: Bhang "
For all the other pictures on the page; was ANYONE else credited? If anything; you were OVER credited since I'd added information to the top of the page without changing the credit acknowledgment I quoted. -My mistake
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I also understand that that you all want to move up on the Top Conspiracy Site listing but hording the information and pretending like you were to one to find/learn/understand/express/ or share the information 1st is pretty low in my opinion.
If this was so, I could easily have photo edited your website url out of an image. Maybe the actual goal is to expose the BULLSHIT in conspiracy sites while also exposing the important stuff? Your site is promoting racist mind control propaganda from mormons and Alex Jones of all people. Some of us understand the harm in that.
Not long ago in a pm; you thanked me for my benevolent work, and selfishly requested that I help you MORE while I was still struggling with my own site's development which you yourself borrowed some elements of.
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We are only a three man team over at wachadoo and we have EARNED our 5th place status in the Top Conspiracy Sites of the English speaking world. Vile trickery and shameless spamming will breed naught but contempt and karmic retribution. I ask ask for peace and understanding in this matter.
Vile trickery and shameless spamming? You don't even afford your users (contributors) a forum for spam - we do. We offered the same opportunity and more for anyone else to do the same on this forum as I've done on theirs. Furthermore linking to videos in which downloading of them is fascilitated is often considered a service: not spam. Ask yourselves how a 3 man team on a lifeless forum EARNED 5th place on a top site list and you'll see how ridiculous this sounds. The former Icke forum is way better... where is that on the list?
I had been spamming, voting for and otherwise promoting your forum as well as Ry's and many others until I lost trust in their administration. This is the first time you've expressed your dissatisfaction with my participation at your forum, or delinking to your site (credit and your url were still there). All it took was a note. Your image (with url) will be removed. To be sure I don't contribute / abuse your forum again; feel free to inactivate my account there.
Incidentally; for all the so called spamming I've done -do you see one single user (non team member) from your forum here? Do you honestly think I gained more from you than you from me?
Thanks for expressing your opinions.
*update: you got quite the sicko as one of your 3
Promoting Mormon Jesus:
Matthew 5:17 17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
-That means all the sick laws of YHWH or JHVH
Luke 19:27 27 But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me.
Matthew 15:22-27 22 And, behold, a woman of Canaan came out of the same coasts, and cried unto him, saying, Have mercy on me, O Lord, thou Son of David; my daughter is grievously vexed with a devil. 23 But he answered her not a word. And his disciples came and besought him, saying, Send her away; for she crieth after us. 24 But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel. 25 Then came she and worshipped him, saying, Lord, help me. 26 But he answered and said, It is not meet to take the children's bread, and to cast it to dogs. 27 And she said, Truth, Lord: yet the dogs eat of the crumbs which fall from their masters' table.
Wed Nov 22, 2006 11:11 am
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Bhang
Joined: 10 May 2006 Posts: 4 Location: American Underground
from: *pro-christian/ alex jones url removed*
posted: Thu Mar 23, 2006 12:52 am Post subject: IXXI
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Madthumbs: "Excellent post Bhang! I put some of it on one of our pages at OD with a link to this thread.
Thank you!"
This is the information spoke of:
*spam image removed*
Then come for another visit and find this:
*bandwidth theft image removed*
Honored I am to see this nifty .gif with the numbers of IXXI pass by my eyes yet not even a word of where it bubbled up into the human consciousness. Like taking the name of an artist’s painting. Then you take that painting, slap a logo/sigil on it then call it your own?
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Specifically posting that work (often full web pages) on Zionist owned/ controlled sites who assist in bandwidth theft abusing image and video hosting as well.
Please provide evidence of such claims.
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Your work will be removed. The link was removed because of the hostile illogical defense of Alex Jones on your forum.
Despite your dislike of Alex Jones, he has a large fan base and is an important media figurehead You Sir, didn’t even bother to log in and let us know that that Alex Jones licks balls or something and if you had, you may have learned that I sometimes imagine that Alex Jones is actually an agent provocateur. But this is just spittle. We could Babylon forever over this. Personal opinions are allowed last time I remember.
Philosophical debates over your opinions are encouraged in order to get at the truth. Yet you never seemed interested in actually typing words, just copy and paste the links to your sites. This seemed rather empty and void, almost bot like. Did I come to your place and shamelessly plug to the same site over and over?
No. I did not.
I find interesting data, post it, link it and throw personal remarks and/or opinions in.
I actually wasn’t trying to pick a mud flinging contest here, just to gripe and/or bitch about the IXXI thing. I had to defend my vision that I share with all… It was spawned within my mind and birthed on the net at Wachadoo.
But since you are in the business of .jps & .gifs I offer you another thing that manifested in my mind that I also shared with all:
Maybe you could put a little OD logo and .gif on this one too!
As far as promoting Mormon Jesus I suggest you re-consider if you know of what faith the next savior shall arise? You seem hell bent on knowing something the rest of us don’t. I think you may be allowing your opinions to overstep the general coconscious and you have failed in your mission to enlighten us all on how it is all wrong.
I detect evil techno-shamanism.
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Maybe the actual goal is to expose the BULLSHIT in conspiracy sites while also exposing the important stuff? - Madthumbs
Your work will be removed. The link was removed because of the hostile illogical defense of Alex Jones on your forum.
Did you even read my illogical defense? Did you listen to the words that Alex spoke? He did not say that Israel was innocent of the bombing of the USS Liberty, he said that they were part of a plot by President Lyndon B. Johnson, Sec. McNamara and Israel.
Beside all of that, just because you think my opinion stinks, you steal Bhang's work? What a turd.
--Jedimaster
Fri Nov 24, 2006 5:11 pm
madthumbs
Joined: 22 Feb 2006 Posts: 8246 Location: Fingerlakes - NY usa
Bhang; I've seen the stupid 9-11 advertisement used for a book advertisement also, that was also coincidently animated, but differently. Perhaps I should just run around slapping hyperlinks on everything I have posted here to EVERY other source of SIMILAR ideas.
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he has a large fan base and is an important media figurehead
So is Madonna.
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You Sir, didn’t even bother to log in and let us know that that Alex Jones licks balls
Bullshit. You get like ~1 post a day on your forum and you can't even remember your jedi guy getting hostile over my stance on Alex Jones. And you wonder why I only posted some videos. I did give him shit about promoting Jesus before seeing your bitchfit here.
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Did I come to your place and shamelessly plug to the same site over and over?
What you THANKED me for, you're now bitching about despite the fact that the very FIRST time you bitched; I said I'd stop and have. Furthermore these were links to specific videos which were made downloadable. If these videos go down on the vlog; I replace them so I don't have to edit links all over the place to point to another url. This was a service to your site as well as mine.
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I actually wasn’t trying to pick a mud flinging contest here, just to gripe and/or bitch about the IXXI thing.
Funny thing is as I ALREADY pointed out; you were OVER CREDITED for it! So there was absolutely no reason for you to whine about it. You could just as well of told me to remove it via pm, but you prefer now that this site doing much better than yours to attack. The url to your site was in the image unedited with "Bhang" credited as the provider of more than you provided. The page had gotten over 700 hits a day for months and is now at 100-200, and yeah.. you are here bitching about everything you can think of.
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As far as promoting Mormon Jesus I suggest you re-consider if you know of what faith the next savior shall arise?
-There is no savior. Religion is pure mind control. This kind of idiocy on your forum is why I stopped linking to and promoting your undeserving site.
I stopped participating on your site, and now I request that you stop here. I don't support the childish pro Alex Jones/ Christian nonsense that you'd have us subscribe to.
Fri Nov 24, 2006 5:27 pm
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madthumbs
Joined: 22 Feb 2006 Posts: 8246 Location: Fingerlakes - NY usa
Re: Listen
jedimaster wrote:
Madthumbs:
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Your work will be removed. The link was removed because of the hostile illogical defense of Alex Jones on your forum.
Did you even read my illogical defense? Did you listen to the words that Alex spoke? He did not say that Israel was innocent of the bombing of the USS Liberty, he said that they were part of a plot by President Lyndon B. Johnson, Sec. McNamara and Israel.
Beside all of that, just because you think my opinion stinks, you steal Bhang's work? What a turd.
--Jedimaster
Ahem.. again.. Bhang THANKED me for it because it gave him exposure. Now that the page it was on is dying and his pathetic site is overshadowed he wants to make a big deal about it. Now buzz off you Jedi/Christian/Mormon/Alex Jones nonsense promoter. I don't post at your site: you don't post here. Bye
Fri Nov 24, 2006 5:39 pm
stOneskull
Joined: 23 Jun 2006 Posts: 819 Location: Australia
there was a cartoon made, i'm not sure how old it is..
i saw it a few years ago and haven't been able to find it again.
it was about mormonism and their beliefs.. it wasn't the south park episode, it was before that.
it was about how satan was jesus's brother, and that joseph smith is considered equal to jesus.
if anyone out there knows this cartoon, has it or knows where it is available, that would rock.
edit: haha, i found it! it's on you tube:
(purple writing on black background is f'd up)
Fri Nov 24, 2006 6:17 pm
madthumbs
Joined: 22 Feb 2006 Posts: 8246 Location: Fingerlakes - NY usa
stOneskull wrote:
edit: haha, i found it! it's on you tube:
-Now on the vlog, and homepage (temporarily).. should I hyperlink to your paypal account?
I've been baptized in this church, and from what I recollect; this seems accurate. They have a "home teaching" ministry. I learned more about Joseph Smith and Brigham Young (yes the one that Steve Jones is associated with) than Jesus or Satan. I don't recall hearing of Satan until I went to a Baptist Church.
Are you one of those people that think that everyone from the south is a moron?
