madthumbs is an arrogant cock

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madthumbs wrote:

	PersianPaladin wrote:
	Drop it madthumbs, you can be SO STUBBORN AND PARANOID sometimes. Chill dude, please. You are making a storm out of a tea cup.

I was dropping it. You and Benjamin are rekindling it. Need I remind you that this guy is still promoting disinfo: someone we documented as a liar. One thing I can't stand is someone putting words in my mouth or accusing me of something I didn't do. Put yourself in my shoes. I'm putting people in my shoes and if it were someone else being lied about; he'd be banned already!

If you want me to drop it; you drop it! Now get back on topic, or I'll split the thread and make a dedicated post like I had to do with someone else I kinda miss to drive the point home. If you're gonna accuse someone of something evil; you better damned well know what you're talking about before running at the mouth. Some people are doing more talking than listening here and it needs to stop. He didn't happen provoke me this time.

How can Majid be disinfo? Really, he is just as anti-zionist as anyone else. I used to be matey with people whom I later found out to be disinfo zionist-deniers. It doesn't make me a disinfo person, neither does it make Majid. I hope you're not attacking Majid for other reasons, i.e. because he is a Muslim. I am one too btw.

Please stop this paranoia, you're making yourself look stupid. You do a lot of good work, don't give people the wrong impression about yourself.

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Thanks PersianPaladin,

I needed the kick in the ass to split this topic.

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PersianPaladin wrote:

How can Majid be disinfo? Really, he is just as anti-zionist as anyone else. I used to be matey with people whom I later found out to be disinfo zionist-deniers. It doesn't make me a disinfo person, neither does it make Majid. I hope you're not attacking Majid for other reasons, i.e. because he is a Muslim. I am one too btw.

Please stop this paranoia, you're making yourself look stupid. You do a lot of good work, don't give people the wrong impression about yourself.

How can Alex Jones be disinfo? Really, he is just as anti-establishment as anyone else. I used to be matey with people whom I later found out to be disinfo anti-establishment-deniers. It doesn't make me a disinfo person, neither does it make me Alex Jones. I hope you're not attacking Alex Jones for other reasons, i.e. because he's Christian. I was one to btw.

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Slow the FVCK down people!!!

This site is not to oppose Madthumbs or Ry or whoever has friends on whatever lists!!!

I even have Alex Jones as one of my friends on myspace... and that helps to get people to see my profile, and the personals I get have been helping many to see who he really is!!!
So now it's only us being infiltrated, we are the infiltrators... and we push the facts!!!

Why did you even bring that Ry shit here???

I have great respect for this forum and the way things are done... but Thumbz... slow the FVCK down!!!

These personas with associations with other ppl might be an infiltrator for the real truth... not for an idea that is alternatively main-stream!!!

This is way beyond you Thumbs... and it couldn't have been if not for you!!! So I can understand what you might be thinking, but if he is advertising his page on here... let it be...

And you mention associations --- I could simply ask you Why are you still on Myspace???

Some people come here before they know about myspace and sometimes it's the other way around!!!

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Gunther wrote:

Slow the FVCK down people!!!

This site is not to oppose Madthumbs or Ry or whoever has friends on whatever lists!!!

I even have Alex Jones as one of my friends on myspace... and that helps to get people to see my profile, and the personals I get have been helping many to see who he really is!!!
So now it's only us being infiltrated, we are the infiltrators... and we push the facts!!!

Why did you even bring that Ry shit here???

I have great respect for this forum and the way things are done... but Thumbz... slow the FVCK down!!!

These personas with associations with other ppl might be an infiltrator for the real truth... not for an idea that is alternatively main-stream!!!

This is way beyond you Thumbs... and it couldn't have been if not for you!!! So I can understand what you might be thinking, but if he is advertising his page on here... let it be...

And you mention associations --- I could simply ask you Why are you still on Myspace???

Some people come here before they know about myspace and sometimes it's the other way around!!!

Good point. I don't even have a myspace account, and never will.

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madthumbs wrote:

PersianPaladin wrote:

How can Majid be disinfo? Really, he is just as anti-zionist as anyone else. I used to be matey with people whom I later found out to be disinfo zionist-deniers. It doesn't make me a disinfo person, neither does it make Majid. I hope you're not attacking Majid for other reasons, i.e. because he is a Muslim. I am one too btw.

Please stop this paranoia, you're making yourself look stupid. You do a lot of good work, don't give people the wrong impression about yourself.

How can Alex Jones be disinfo? Really, he is just as anti-establishment as anyone else. I used to be matey with people whom I later found out to be disinfo anti-establishment-deniers. It doesn't make me a disinfo person, neither does it make me Alex Jones. I hope you're not attacking Alex Jones for other reasons, i.e. because he's Christian. I was one to btw.

Please don't twist my words.

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hmm.. this kind of nitpicking arguements you'll never see develop in the boardrooms of the ones running the show..

On a forum, people will give their own opinion.. this forum is supposed to pierce the veil and shatter lies, but it can only do so if you counter all 'disinfo' (anything not supporting or contradicting 'your' vision) ,by educating and informing, and that, in my humble opinion, can never be gained by (ab)using moderator powers to ban 'subversives'

I hope this type of arguement is only a one-time event.. I came here to discuss serious matters, not to watch us divide and conquer... ourselves!

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@Insomania

Slander has no place in truth. Look at the time it's wasted. If someone lies about someone to discredit them; they shouldn't be here. You guys are only showing me that I should have banned this person to save us this waste of time.

If you don't like how things are here; I suggest you go to Ry's forum where you'll likely fit in better. No one's forcing you to be here.

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url ?

look.. if it's a monologue you want, where nobody can say something that you do not agree with, why start a forum in the first place?

I do not mind reading things I do not necisarily agree with..

I do not mind wasting time to debate

I do not mind wasting time to debunk

What I do mind is people going at each other personally in an open thread..

Go ahead and ban me if you think I'm stepping over some line or something.

It's hard to believe any thruth will evolve from censorship, but maybe that's just me..

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Madthumbs....you can set the agenda and main aim of a forum; but you CANNOT make judgements about people that you disagree with without very substantive evidence that they are PURPOSELY spreading disinfo. You do not have enough evidence that Majid is purposely spreadin disinfo (or spreading disinfo at all), therefore you have no right to make judgements about him. As for Ry, well I think the case against him is a lot more solid - thanks to your (and others) experiences with him.

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	I do not mind wasting time to debate I do not mind wasting time to debunk

Then mind wasting some time investigating before jumping in.

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	Go ahead and ban me if you think I'm stepping over some line or something.

Have you lied about a forum member?

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	Madthumbs....you can set the agenda and main aim of a forum; but you CANNOT make judgements about people that you disagree with without very substantive evidence that they are PURPOSELY spreading disinfo.

This isn't about disagreement. You're wrong to imply that. It's about lying to discredit. Here's you're evidence:

It's not like what I said was contested. Rolling Eyes

For those unfamiliar with myspace: this is Majid's #1 friend slot. It's most often used to promote that person.

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	As for Ry, well I think the case against him is a lot more solid.

If Majid were lying about you guys to discredit you; would you be as defensive? Add to this the spam for myspace (note also how most of his threads here appear to be noted as being from myspace). Does he ever post at myspace to say something like; "look what I posted ...."?

Does anyone else wanna keep harassing me and dragging him through the dirt?

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all of this is pathetic
and we all start to look like idiots because of this.

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But madthumbs....we have already discussed before that DBS initially asked everybody to use MySpace to spread ideas. So you cannot blame him for having it in his sig. He is not promoting it, he is just promoting his place on that site because is where the location of most of his discussions are. True it has its flaws, but its usage in his sig is not suspicious.

As for Ry being his no.1 buddy on there...please consider how old that friend listing is. Also consider the possibility of Majid being naively unaware of Ry's true intentions and nature when he added him to that list. Okay, so he hasn't removed him from that list. Perhaps he should do it now and prove that he was friends with him out of ignorance rather than as part of a purposeful agenda.

I also contest the authenticity of the 'friends' system on MySpace, i.e. the way in which you can obtain friends simply by your own decision or posting on another person's forum rather than the result of genuine mutual decisions.

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	Benjamin Freedman wrote:
	all of this is pathetic and we all start to look like idiots because of this.

That's why I should have banned him.

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	we have already discussed before that DBS initially asked everybody to use MySpace to spread ideas. So you cannot blame him for having it in his sig. He is not promoting it, he is just promoting his place on that site because is where the location of most of his discussions are.

It isn't his space. Myspace owns all the content on their site and profits from that content. Did he need to say where he originally posted stuff?

Our purpose there should be to get people looking at other sites. A good example of why is the night I posted the bulletin about Christopher Bollyn requesting people to call the police department for answers. Myspace bulletins went down shortly after and didn't come back online until his bond hearing. Is that the kind of place you want people congregating? Should we advertise for a company that took down our Beloved Rachel Corrie? You actually think Daryl want's you to bring everyone to your myspace page instead of his site, Eric's site, Christopher Bollyn's or here? Seriously... who's got one of their sites in their Sig? dontknow